burry dalessio: I am likewise feeling the same way, but God has big plans for me and all of us.......I am done here with discussing anymore about The ROC because 'IF' we are 'LOOKING' for a 'PERFECT' 'church we are 'FOOLING' ourselves 'BIG' time!!! Sinners make up 'THE CHURCH' and right now.........God's working on me '
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QuoteshaftedCan anybody tell me about this new scholarship / job training program that I have been seeing flyers on? How much money did the ROC get from the government for this caper? How did they get the grant? I saw where Jonathan Falwell is coming to preach. I have tried to warn him about these people but there has been no heed to my warning. The answer can be found in your question shaf
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QuotedoublestandardIt's confusing that you were threatened yet welcomed back to church by the same person. Can you please clarify which actually happened? Both happened doublestandard......your name is exactly the way you operated on here.........how about doubleminded! Speaking out of both sides of your mouth......you're either doubleminded, a gemini or very ignorant and non cari
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I was welcomed back and then verbally assaulted.......by some blonde bimbo.......who has no clue about my innermost being or life, but God and Pastor G has not been properly trained on 'how' to handle a ministry of this magnitude........and what he *thinks* regarding those directly under him might just be there for what they can get out of him and take from him and his wife.......not su
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i appologize.....i didn't feel i was preaching! i was voicing my concerns! one wasn't even posted on another cite which makes me feel you know these people personally rrmoderator.......it's okay........nothing hidden shall be hidden for long except that it shall be revealed!
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I am gonna journal my thoughts and feelings from now on, washing my hands of all things........I encountered Crystal who somehow knew me, but I didn't know her.......she kept stating my blog.......never forth right did she actually say this website.....so, I am not into drama......I am not into a ministry that is into that kind of drama and am choosing to disassociate myself, detach myself a
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You do understand that 'ANYTHING' your covering of your ministry 'DOES' he does it or he's done it or he's doin' it to the congregation.....it trickles down and infects the 'entire flock'........YOU ALSO DO KNOW that 'THIS' is not normal at all!!! Does Pastor G feel he can slip or skip through the cracks or skirt the sidelines because the &#
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the recent info I obtained for my dad is World Wide Church Of God was started by Pastor Herbert Armstrong and his son and when Pastor Armstrong passed away his son had to come in and take over the ministry because someone tried to come in and change all of Pastor Armstrongs teachings and The Plain Truth and Gospel Trumpeter and Philadelphia Church of God are all linked to World Wide Church Of God
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I am Thankful to hear see that Pastor G confessed his sin....but, the real test for him is to confess it before the 'brethren' of The ROC.......I don't get stressed and wanna smoke.....do you know there are 75% + smokers at The ROC......I am attending a ministry 'much smaller' and no drama or stress......I don't get anxious enough to smoke....I have issues with peopl
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I am very very Thankful after reading mercy2all's comments that you must be druggin' up with those there at The ROC too?! You are defending them like you know 'EXACTLY' what you are talking about.........write your info......don't just defend......I wanna see you write down those facts that you so blatantly defend!!!!!!! GOD HAS CONTROL OF THIS.....'NOT MAN'..
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'PRAISE GOD'............ QuotefindtheliesPastor Allen is currently working on getting a new 501-c3 organization going as a church (don't know the ins and outs). Rod Jackson was made an assistant pastor, and left when he found out about Cassidy. He was at the meeting at Chill's house when G confessed to sleeping with her. He left and knows everything.
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I hate to say it, but 'EXTORTION' --- 'EXTORTION' --- 'EXTORTION'..........I worked for a snake in the grass Boss at Caring Companions and he's received a 20 year suspended sentence on medicaid fraud........and Pastor G is running The ROC the same exact way!!!
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Corboy: we must never forget to 'THINK FOR OURSELVES' or 'LET THE DEVIL OUR JOB BETTER THAN US'...........God's hand of protection be upon you and your faithful diligence to seek out the truth.........truth is better than fiction.......those guys are 'BOZOS'.........plain and simple fact....before I became saved or born again....God had my back......every sing
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it's not a stem off or spin off of The Moonies?!
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WOW.......I see there were a few that were banned.....well, I noticed lately that Pastor 'Gs' sermons or 'messages' were aired on channel 6 from some older messages.......what's wrong with showing 'whosoever' giving the message and giving it on the day it's delivered 6p service.....I am puzzled by this......why can't we the viewing public see a message
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one of the beliefs my dad has ingrained in his head is 'heaven is here on earth'.......and adamant about the fact that it was the ministry that Jesus Christ himself started before he ascended to heaven?! I have huge problems with this!
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Hebrews 4:6 kjv see above^ I don't want to put my Jesus through that......and I don't want anyone really putting my Jesus through that and that's it!!! I believe 'if' everyone could really see things a little differently and understand just what Jesus did for us then they wouldn't think about 'being tempted' or 'sinning' all the time......but,
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it's scary how my dad talks about it......he says that they are having a convention soon in the Shearaton and he couldn't respond back to me after he said this to me.......it's the first church started after Jesus Christ started on earth!.....I said to my dad.....oh, yeah, then why were all of these other churches created then....he couldn't respond! My dad is a Fox News Junk
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Numbers 32:23 King James Version (KJV) 23But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out. God has a reason for prolonging this ordeal.....I worked for a home health care agency and the guy that owned it was slick and sly as a fox.....but, one day........we cannot stress out about when, where, how.........God will take care of it
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I am having trouble focusing on myself and God and getting myself back on track with my life! I mean The ROC was a 'HOUSE OF MERCHANDISE' and it was pushed at every turn. Cafe', Laundry Room, Book Store, Coutier Clothing & Accesories to 'PROMOTE JESUS'.......no just a slick way into peoples pockets! Beside that the program was 'at first' very 'appeal
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I need someone to message me about this. Corboy if you know how or know what to do if you can come here and check this one out - let me know! It's been here since the 80's or earlier and I think it might stem off from the 'Moonies' cult started here a very long time ago......ANY INFORMATION IS ACCEPTED AND APPRECIATED!
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that would mean that Pastor G would have to believe he has done any wrong........if everyone keeps on 'babying' him and making him think everything is just 'fine and dandy'......why would he think he would need any counseling or help from anyone or need to 'confess sins'........if he feels obviously 'intitled' to do what he does.......have his sermons penne
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Well, any 'suggestions' of 'how' to get my dad off of it......he's never attended one single service and yet acts like Garner Ted Armstrong was standing right in front of him telling him everything.....that's very difficult for me to grasp how someone can be so mesmerized by someone and not even see them face to face and be that drawn to them..... He believes it is t
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I wondered where Pastor 'G' would be off and runnin' to........CA......somehow this old dog can't learn new tricks........either Pastr 'G' believes all the crap that he's dishin' out to everybody or it's being funneled to him from someone else.........I also was wondering if he was with 'Jammie Chasteen'..........'THAT' wouldn'
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wow..........savedsinner!!! I actually really wished and hoped that Pastor G would have listened to his Uncle Bert more than doin' his own thing!
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WOW......THIS IS MY POINT EXACTLY............I mean.........maybe this was why they were not having any communions there at The ROC.......maybe those guys really know better than we do.......it clearly says not to have communion if you're not living right.........here it is: 1 Corinthians 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall b
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I was listening to the message with my patient today who's 'bless her heart' haaa 94 years old.....eyesight comes and goes.......I had the Saturday night service or 'muhwahhhhhaaaaa' - yes, let me rephrase this.....'show' as Pastor'G' mentions at the very end of service.....now I have a brother who needs to get help from alcohol...........I believe God
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I am recovering too. I attended a ministry that was all 'hype', selling a lot of things for money, money, money and smoke screens for the 'behind the scenes'. It took me a minute, but with God's help I was able to pull away......I also, decided this after my mom passed away from cancer in december of last year. This ministry was not really there for the people, but onl
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this ministry should be just closed off to recovering substance abusers and only rehabed and set out to work outside the ministry with 'trustworthy' coaching from the proper people! No outside public should be attending 'ever' - unless someone was graduating the program....................it's either hit or miss with these rehabs anyway, but 'why' pull so many
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Quote12recoverGeronimo Aguilar, Pastor of the ROC molested my cousin for six months last year. She is a beautiful trusting girl and he violated her mind, body and soul. This cannot go unpunished. I will do everything in my power to bring this creep to justice. I ask all who have attended the ROC and have any proof of criminal activity he is involved in to come forward. Those that know the truth o
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