QuoteTaitenAndProudBack to that passage from the Nirvana Sutra about how King Virtuous was rewarded for virtuously killing a dozen Taoist priests by being reborn as Shakyamuni Buddha... Considering that the definitive text for Daoism, the Dao-De-Ching, wasn't written until the late 4th Century BCE, that means that, when Taoism started, the Buddha had already been dead for decades, if not a
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QuoteTaitenAndProudQuoteI might if I knew nothing of the history and prophetic nature of the Mahayana Mahaparanirvana Sutra which was composed 800 years before the Muslims and Rajputs slaughtered 20,000,000 pacifistic Buddhists in India. NichijewOddly, I can't find any references to the massacre(s) to which you refer. Given that the Nirvana Sutra (that's what that big long name is r
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"You don't think there's anything at all odd-sounding about describing Shakyamuni Buddha as a former murderer who was *rewarded* for murdering priests" -- TaitanandProud." I might if I knew nothing of the history and prophetic nature of the Mahayana Mahaparanirvana Sutra which was composed 800 years before the Muslims and Rajputs slaughtered 20,000,000 pacifistic Buddh
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QuoteHitchThe gakkai cult equivalent of dancing in the holy ghost and speaking in tongues "And if you dont' now you know Buddhaaaa". If you can't make it thru the whole 4 min. clip, at least don't miss the 0:15 sec. mark and the closing with "Nam Myoho Renge Kyo", "Thank You!" at 3:59. Buddhism? I don't think so. CULT? Absolutely. -
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Nichiren does indeed clarify his non-violent stance in Establishing the Correct Law for the Peace of the Land: "The host said: You have clearly seen the sutra passages that I have cited, and yet you can ask a question like that! Are they beyond the power of your mind to comprehend? Or do you fail to understand the reasoning behind them? I certainly have no intention of censuring the sons
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QuoteTaitenAndProudNichijew, why is it that you say that your wife is alive today BECAUSE you left the SGI? Nancy had many medical and psychiatric problems that began or worsened after having joined the SGI. She had cirrhosis, asthma, diabetes, cardiomyopathy, hep C, htn, blackouts, and five herniated discs from all the falls. She was drinking more than a quart and a half of vodka and 12-24 bud
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Many good posts. I had already left the SGI for about 6 months or a year in 1996 but I had not left all my SGI baggage. My very sincere wife bought a beautiful statue of Shakyamuni Buddha in Chinatown. She was so proud of her find. The moment I saw it, I freaked. I told my wife in no uncertain terms that she would have to throw out the statue as we couldn't have it in the house. I told her
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QuoteHitchJunior Pioneers / "YOUTH!" / "The Future Division." Let's pull the curtain back a bit and take a look at how it all works. For those unfamiliar with how the brainwashing (thought reform) begins for those born into the practice ("mis"-fortune babies), the following clip is a good introduction to one aspect of the process. Gongyo has now of course
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Exploiting children like that to fill the coffers is a real disgrace. They should have payed that dear little child a thousand dollars or given her a thousand dollars towards a scholarship fund for encouraging the members to give more donations. The top senior leaders who have a similar job as the little girl certainly get payed handsomely.
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This Orwellian cult had a very successful election in December, their power and influence increased manifold. Japan is ruined, its soul polluted worse than the air, water, and earth of Fukushima. Nichijew more determined than ever
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There are many people who enjoy associations that are destructive. Many are not even aware that their dysfunctional relationships are detrimental to their well being. Enough evidence of the poison of SGI has been given to keep them at arms length, fair or no fair, pleasure or no pleasure. Mark
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We haven't talked much about this but one way to ensure that you don't weaken in your resolve to never return to the SGI cult is to be excommunicated. I know several people who have been excommunicated. Stan Zir of Victorious America made too much of a stink when his wife was raped by a top senior leader. His pal Phil Ohrenstein, when he pushed too hard about failing to follow the Dear
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Quotewakatta1QuoteshavoyBut there is a new sense of happiness brewing---the peace of knowing that I have listened to the voice inside and am living true to myself. Consider this: We all have had the "value creation power" within us. Ours to focus and use however we choose. Getting sidetracked by the Gakkai is like the person who doesn't trust the accelerator pedal and brake pe
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QuoteFindingmywaytodayQuote I have no interest in pursuing a Nichiren Shu practice or any practice of Buddhism at this point, (thank you SGI) and see that video as another helpful point of view examining this perplexing SGI machine. This is a really good point. SGI is really a perplexing machine. I completely agree with this point! They would answer, "As I told you, the understanding of
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After I moved out of New York City, whenever I had to return, as soon as I crossed the county line into Queens, I would get nauseated. Seeing these videos of the cult I was in for 19 years is like returning to the city. It makes me sick to my stomach. The adults who create these cult activities for the children and adolescents should be be arrested for child abuse. Ikeda and his lieutenants like
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Great stuff Hitch.
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QuoteWaywardBuddhistWomanStarting to get the inquiries from my "friends in faith". Where have I been, am I okay, etc. since I have not engaged in any SGI contact in over a month. I don't want to rationalize, justify or explain my decision. Plan to just state I no longer care to practice with the SGI. Thoughts, anyone? Another option is to admonish them to the point that you
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QuotetsukimotoQuoteThe AnticultHave known some people who are in SGI who have some "issues" in the mental health area, and some of them really went overboard with the SGI-chanting. One person was chanting, and not getting what they want out of life, and things were getting worse. So this person was getting more and more anxious, and started to chant longer, and faster and faster. Eve
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QuoteHitchMore of The Cult Master's Fan Dance - This fellow likes his kool-aid in big tall, extra flavoring added, cool glasses. . With free refills / . (Sorry, but LMAO!!) CULT!! Seriously, however, these kinds of people are invariably of the high pressure, overbearing, ultra-manipulative type who can potentially make the life of their "members" hell as they try
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Others share our bitter experiences with the "enlightened" SGI pioneer members. "Thank you for your comment. However, the intent of this blog is not to have “open and honest dialogue.” I was told by a top leader there is no dialogue in the SGI. Meetings serve as a vehicle to promote publications and activities. That is all. All my attempts over the years to promote dialogue
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QuoteWaywardBuddhistWomanI am new to this forum. I have pracaticed with the SGI for 35 years. I stopped chanting a month ago. I have spent the past two weeks reading every post here. It has proved to confirm my growing suspicions and concerns that my involvement with this group needs to end. I look forward to sharing my saga of cult behavior and organizational abuse that I both witnessed and
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SUA is Ikeda's "jewel in the West" and SGI thought control central, so no expenses were and are spared by the Japanese organization. The endowments for SUA are huge, with many wealthy and not so wealthy SGI members donating their hard earned dollars to SUA. For a school with less than two thousand students, it equals proportionally the endowments to Columbia, Brown, Princeton etc.
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QuoteShavoySigh. I have to throw a few things off my heart. I loved participating in SGI-USA, I did. I loved the discipline of chanting and doing gongyo, not that it was ever performed rigidly regular, but, hey. I loved it. Felt like the vast majority of my prayers were answered. I was happier then. Yeah, I'm saying I was happier then. Now I'm unhappy again. But not totally.
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QuotegoodgirlSo I was on youtube and i came across this video. sorry but i dont know how to post the link but it is under "MLK Chapel: Gandhi, King, Ikeda Video" I think its been posted here before. Anyway It really struck something in me. Am I crazy or something? All of these educated people speaking about President Ikeda being in the same light as King and Gandhi. I mean no disresp
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QuoteScoobyDoobyQuotekasumiIs there anyone on this forum who has SGI/Nichiren Shoshu items that they would like to part with? If so, please pm me or post your info here. Also, the issues with SGI raised here seem to center on its organization and operation, including its leadership. Two questions: 1. Aside from SGI, did anyone have issues with the actual practice of Nichiren Daish
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QuoteUpgrayedRemember, Kosen Rufu needs a steady hand to guide it for the sake of success. Nothing is more steady than Attorneys, CEO's, Real Estate executives and other financial and business management types. It's not because it's a business disguised as a religion....... Ikeda the Billionare, who is benevolent and sacrifices for us.......excuse me I had to throw up. Gr
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Both SGI and the USA are sinking fast because they are autocracies that claim to be democracies . The USA, fortunately, is a relative autocracy thanks to the seperation of powers. The Soka Gakkai is an absolute autocracy. Good riddens to the Soka Gakkai. Hopefully, America the beautiful will survive. Nichijew
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Yes, she's THE Secretary of the entire Deutchbank! Lets see who actually makes up the board of directors of the Soka Gakkai cult in the USA: Marylou Berk Currently Senior Vice President, Commercial Real Estate at the Lefrak Organization in New York, NY. Ms. Berk has many years of experience in real estate and project development and management in the U.S. and globally. Daniel Habuki
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"You are lying again Rogow, Donna Puzzo is a secretary." -- SGI leader
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The board of directors on the FQHC are composed of 50% patients selected randomly. The remaining 50% are the administrators, physicians, and nurses. Every single person on the Soka Gakkai's board of director is either a wealthy patron or top leader. So much for the lie that "you are the Soka Gakkai". Lets see Joe the bagel maker or Cindy the cashier on the SGI board of directors.
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