How to kick Ikeda out of your mind: 1. I love Sushigrl's way with words! The Soka Gotcha! Mobster and Disciple relationship. Monster and Disciple relationship. How about the Masturbator and Disciple relationship? Think of it...this creepy old geezer in his summer kimono that's hanging open a bit, showing his gray chest hair and saggy old-man chest. Young Women's
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Photos: Didn't Nichijew say that he'd once done gongyo (prayers) to a photograph of Ikeda? He was at some Young Men's Division activity, and the guys were away from a Gohonzon? Praying to Ikeda, making him the center of their faith and prayer? Isn't that really just what SGI WANTS members to do? SGI sent me a Mothers' Day card back in May....calling me a &q
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QuoteThe Anticult And yes, Ikeda is using more old school deliberate techniques of persuasion and manipulation. The 3 hr drive for a "discussion" of Ikeda, is very simply, a basic technique of deep influence and persuasion. That could have been designed by one of the SGI-USA experts in group persuasion. They stick people in a car for hours, as that prepares the mind, for those hours
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QuotesushigrlWhen I met Prez Ikeda™ he gave me a slithery slip of his hand and an icy look. I was a devoted member. I really had bought into the whole deal and was working day and night for his arrival. I stood in line waiting for the master of the universe to appear. Warming us up was Mr Williams. His eyes were filled with warmth. Next in line was Ikeda™. His eyes hit mine and instantly the
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QuotesushigrlI did a search on Veoh for Daisaku Ikeda and one of the videos came up: and found this too : Those other links I posted used to work. They were found under a search for Soka Gakkai. Now maybe they'll disappear again! If you do a search for Kanagawa61, you'll find those videos of the 1993 convention -- Ikeda pounding the table and repeating words and sounds that wer
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Quotesushigrl By the way, does anyone think that chanting daimoku (Nam Myoho Renge Kyo) gives one a "high" life- condition? This is an important premise in the SGI and is what sets it apart from any other religion or group that I know of. How can one be victorious when we were so encourage to self reflect for every single thing that happened? How does this help a person who is alr
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QuotesushigrlThis one is funny too...funny but true!! Really, you've got to watch it. Everything that's been said here is included :) This one is kinda stupid but also true: I couldn't open these; I kept getting the message that the video was unavailable. Could our friends at SGI have removed it this quickly? I did open and see JesusEsq's link -- how fun
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And besides, according to Jim Celer, if you're a cult member, it's just because you want to be. Just go into the bathroom already! ----------Beginning of Quote, gakkaionline.net------------------------------------------------------- by Jim Celer It was late, and I was tired and trying to get the 2-year-old to bed. In my arms, he rubbed his eyes,
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1. SGI is using the trick of comparing itself to the most extreme cults -- that's a bit like saying, in response to criticism: "Well, I'm a good person -- I'm not a serial killer or anything!" All or nothing thinking! There's a lot of room between being perfect -- and being a serial killer. Great, SGI may not be Jim Jones in Guyana -- does that mean SGI has
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Beginning of Quote----www.gakkaionline.net: "The "C" Word------------------------------------------- 1. A destructive cult tends to be totalitarian in its control of its members' behavior. Cults are likely to dictate in great detail not only what members believe, but also what members wear and eat, when and where members work, sleep, and bathe, and how members think, spea
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"Cult? Who, us? We're not a cult!" From the "Eckhardt Tolle and Byron Katie -- Legit?" thread, "Cults, Sects and New Religious Movements Forum," www.culteducation.com, by Corboy. ---------------------Beginning of Quote---------------------------------------------------------------------- Co-opting the term cult and then de-activating it...or the d
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QuoteThe AnticultAlso, some senior folks at SGI-USA are probably very shocked to see that there are people who understand the precise SGI techniques being used on SGI members, even better than they do. When their techniques are precisely exposed in the open, those who are doing the techniques get very freaked out. The tables are turned on them, and they don't know what to do. They are like
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is an interesting site if you want to study SGI rhetoric. Jim Celer blames all the bad publicity that SGI has received on a) tabloids in Japan just trying to make money by posting sensationalized anti-SGI stories, and b) Nichiren Shoshu members trying to discredit SGI. But it's very interesting to look at the list of rebuttals that Celer (or his friends) have posted. There are just
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When I was young, and being teased, I confided in one of my teachers, a kind and insightful man. He told me something that I've never forgotten: Bullies cannot accept or admit to having any faults or making mistakes. A bully will project his or her own unadmitted flaws and errors onto others. A bully who is afraid of his or her own weakness, for example, will constantly accuse and a
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This is Polly Toynbee's account of her Ikeda-sponsored trip to Japan. She, her husband, and their daughter were wined and dined by Ikeda and his people in Tokyo, Kyoto, and Hiroshima. They stayed in luxurious hotels, rode in limousines, ate at the best restaurants, given expensive gifts. An entourage of drivers, interpreters and aides saw to their every desire. Your SGI zaimu contribu
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QuoteThe Anticultmy goodness, look at the SGI propaganda about Polly Toynbee. In reality, its very easy for a con-artist like Ikeda to fool and dupe an intellectual, its very simple. -----------Beginning of Quote, www.gakkaionline.net--------------------------------------------------------- Nichiren Shoshu loves to disparage President Ikeda’s 1972 meeting with Arnold Toynbee. This was h
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From "A Chapter Leader's Diary, www.fraughtwithperil.com ------------------------Beginning of Quote------------------------------------------------------------- Recently, Pres. Ikeda wrote a message to the Central Executive Committee of SGI. In this message, he talks about the need to develop new leaders. He stresses that the leaders are going to have to lead this organization into
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Quotesushigrl The last two conditions work because there is no effective way for the subject to influence the system and because the program moves along in such a way that the subject is unaware of being changed for a hidden organizational purpose. In a closed system of logic, criticism or complaints are handled by showing the subject that he or she is defective, not the organization. In eff
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QuotesushigrlI think this impression by Polly Toynbee, Arnold Toynbee's granddaughter really sums it up for me ( I found it on this website) Years after Prof. Toynbee's death, and to their great surprise, Polly Toynbee and her husband were invited to visit Mr. Ikeda in Japan. POLLY TOYNBEE: I think it would be hard to imagine a less spiritual man. He was in every way earthy. A pow
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QuoteDrJesusEsq In the SGI, there is something called the Gajokai (protectors of the fortress). For awhile, to me it seemed like an overblown term since here (at least in CT) most of the time gajokai just watch the center and sit in the reception area asking people to sign in. If they have the time, they would clean the center. Apparently, and I was just told this, in Japan it is more seriou
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Regarding shakabuku, Rick Ross's archives has a good article on persuasive techniques: it's an excerpt from "Cults in Our Midst," by Margaret Thaler Singer. -----------Beginning of Quote--------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------Beginning of Quote, "Cults in Our Midst: Psychological Persuasion Techniques"----
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QuoteThe Anticult _____________QUOTE_______________________ "Is it OK to try the practice even if I’m not sure I believe in it?" Of course, if you are very new to chanting Nam-myoho-rengekyo, you might not have experienced any conspicuous actual proof yet. But at SGI-USA activities, you have no doubt heard members’ experiences of having received benefit as well as explanations o
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More from Dick Sutphen, "The Battle For Your Mind" -------------Beginning of Quote-------------------------------------------------------------- Steps in the Decognition Process Once the initial conversion is effected, cults, armed services, and similar groups cannot have cynicism among their members. Members must respond to commands and do as they are told, otherwise they are da
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This excerpt is from "The Battle For Your Mind," by Dick Sutphen, a professional hypnotherapist. Fascinating -- and terrifying! I've edited it for space -- the full article is on this site: www.the7thfire.com -----------------------------------------Beginning of Quote-------------------------------------------------------------- How Revivalist Preachers Work If you
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QuotesushigrlDrJesus, yes every gakkai shakubuku meeting had the same format. The only thing they were interested in was introducing new people to the practice, and make them feel "special" by tailoring the meeting to them, and boring the rest of the members out of their minds. Instead of offering really meaningful or interesting information, they would shove the same junk down our th
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Quoteevergreen I found that recently the SGI has been focusing on Brazil. Although, the USA national leaders say that they have the members that are best connected the "heart of their mentor." Recently at a large youth meeting the leaders showed clips of SGI Brazil and their thousands of youth at a convention - crazed out of their minds, crying because they felt connected to their men
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If anyone is interested in looking at more SGI song lyrics, you can find them at this link: nichiren.info/SokaGakkai/spirit/ Here is the list of the songs: The following section has been made to facilitate the archival of Soka Gakkai spirit songs and materials for members. Please realize that this is a work in progress, and as such, will have minor errors and omissions. Song Index
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So what's up with our former Top Three? Well, they're upbeat and catchy, with lots of repetition. Easy to learn, and they stick in your head, even years after you're out of SGI. They all talk about UP -- the sky, the sun, climbing the hill, comradeship, unity, winning a battle or winning a struggle, dawn or morning, darkness vs. light. FOREVER SENSEI: Sunlight, Sensei (
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And the song "Higher Than the Sky," which we also sang a lot -- "Forever Sensei," "Ring the Bell," and "Higher The Sky," were the big three -- we sang at least one of them at every meeting I attended, and even after over three years out of SGI, I could still sing any of them and get most of the lyrics. Higher Than The Sky Together, always, we must fig
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And the ever-popular "Ring the Bell." (Inspired by Pavlov, you think?) Eight o'clock in the morning sun, rise again today. Shine your light on the race we run, lead us on our way. Ring the bell, throughout the land and keep your spirits high. Fight together, hand in hand. Our dream will never die. Side by side as we climb the hill, rain clouds
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