Not sure what the Prodical has to do with hardening of the heart By our father! If God hadn't hardened the hearts of the Jews, the gentiles wouldn't have had the opportunity to become sons of God! All the other things that you brought up all have to be witnessed by Scripture, and be in compliance with our JUST and Loving Creator. God is Love, but He's a JUST God, He has over and
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Kboy why wouldn't our Father God in Heaven Harden the hearts of these false teachers and cult leaders? He hardened the hearts of Isreal so they couldn't acknowledge that Jesus was THE CHRIST. John 12:40 Verse Concepts "HE HAS BLINDED THEIR EYES AND HE HARDENED THEIR HEART, SO THAT THEY WOULD NOT SEE WITH THEIR EYES AND PERCEIVE WITH THEIR HEART, AND BE CONVERTED AND I HEAL THEM
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Possibly because they have grieved the Holy Spirit( unpardonable sin), Jehovah has hardened their hearts, to be unable to make things right and reach out. More than likely at some point in this whole facade, they had been given an opportunity, but we're so steeped in sin, they could do nothing else but reject the truth..just a thought....
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Yes! It helps to "soften' the blow of treachery, and deception! We have our will to participate in our capacity, sometimes we assume too much without careful examination of the Scriptures, vs. the situation before us! This is our just and Holy service as unto God! I pray for everyone who is involved with this forum and these posts, that by the Holy Spirit, God will provide the healin
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Yeah...amazing
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When Enos Bender told me he was donating the farm to the cause, I was dismayed! But as I grew in the knowledge of God's Word, I realized that Enos had done a wondrous thing, and He gave as to giving unto the Lord! The higher-ups in TLW are gonna pay a steep price when they stand before God in judgment! All the labors of the people in the TLW organization were working , joyfully, giving, a
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That last post contained the word excuse, sorry it was meant to be exucia, greek for executive, or authority
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Executed judgement...that's rich! I 'executed judgement" on it the day I was privy to it! Many did the same! But we aren't all as famous as Kenny boy, yet we all who have Christ in our hearts, possess the excuse (Greek meaning authority) power to speak to it and cast it away! We have all the tools at our fingertips so to speak, to live the righteous life our Father in Heaven
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You're correct, the push has been for reaching the youth! In reality, no people think about or are being brought into the knowledge of a world-wide Biblical view! It's Sad to say that most ministers are looking to build their congregations more for the #s than the quality! There are so many in OUR generation and in between, that need more than just head knowledge of Salvation! Sorry, b
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HMMM Indeed! And someone missed the boat on that one!!
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One thing I do remember about JRS passing, was when they were having prolonged "meetings' to bring him back from the dead! That should have been the nail in the coffin(sorry terrible pun) for people at Shiloh, and all over the organization. What surprised me most as I think about it now, is someone didn't come onto the scene and claim to be the resurrected spirit of JRS ! It
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Wow the things I'm learning! I was definitely very Blessed that God shielded me from this crap! One thing is very true, and everyone that has found the truth has this assurance from God....He who the Son sets free is free indeed! I'm not talking about some evil-minded man/ or a specific doctrine manipulating unsuspecting people, I'm talking about the true living Son Of God! We
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HA! I just talked to Simon Nisly a few days ago! I don't know if he's actually running the sawmill anymore, it sounds like they aren't making pallets anymore, just offering logging and tree service! Anyway, I almost bet I could get you one of those hats! Simon and I graduated together, he said he is still in the organization although Shiloh was all sold out from under them with
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Very sorry I meant as FORMER ESCAPED MEMBERS
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Greetings again! I must be very careful how I word this post because it has an element to it that as members of TLW you guys might think I'm a bit off my rocker! Bear with me! I have witnessed the bobbing and falling staggering junk that came out of the "revival' in Pensacola, Florida! I've seen the same out of Brownsville! That being said, I can't witness that thing
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WOW I just watched a video and read a blog from a woman that filled in some gaps! I remember now being invited by Enos bender, to go to the "Bless in" in Washington Iowa several Saturday nights! Being the case that I didn't have any experience with "Christian" things, church, meetings, etc. I found the various strange practices being taught, a little weird, but excit
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kBoy, it was not the fact that I was smart enough to not jump in, JRS was a charismatic man, and if not for God just literally closing my ears and eyes in the moment, I'd probably got sucked in! God, as I said in earlier posts, shielded me! It is a very good thing that this forum exists, God Bless its the creator!
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Wow, I had no idea JRS was that old. I would have never guessed it when I saw him! Seriously my only hope for being here on this forum, is to bring any light that I can to fill gaps in maybe, and to have gaps filled in for me! My hope is there will be a mass healing of everyone who has fallen victim to all this insanity brought on bu JRS in the Kalona, Washington, Iowa , area! I had absolutely
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That was us for sure! I was the middle sibling always getting in trouble lol I wasn't aware Simon had cousins on our bus unless you might be a Coblentz? or maybe Daniel Nisly's child! The only other I can think of right of hand was the Bramhall's that lived in Richmond! Anyway, it isn't my intention to pry into people's private stuff! I just am trying to wrestle with
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I'm so sorry for the mix up on knowing JRS I'm so sorry! I only remember him fro when I saw him in years between 65-69 just to be sure I'm in a time frame! I had no idea he was that much older! Please be patient with me! Has anyone seen Dorothy Bender Simmering lately? I hung out with her as well on the Bender farm (john and Harvey) she was John's daughter!~
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As a footnote..I might suggest that there are many "hidden" things we all don't know about JRS. It is apparent to me, this is the case as I learn more about how the walk evolved! Thank you all for your patience as I muddle through this stuff
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OK Here we go I only refer to the walk as I know it from when I was 14 yrs old! I'm the small boy that was helping Enos before he 'donated' it to the Walk I will try to clear up some things for you folks as you are clearing up things for me! Thanks for that! Harvey Bender is John Bender's father! Enos is Harvey's grandson and John's nephew! that answers Puddingto
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AS a side note: I am in no means an advocate for JRS.Period! I just speak of personal observations at the very beginning of the transition of TLW in Washington Iowa with Dad Stevens and Fred Bickhart to when JRS went to California and returned a very different person! As an outside observer looking in at that point, I got to witness things a lot of you folks didn't! Even though I didn�
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Thank you for the response! Bowman's passing grieves me even now! That crazy guy was a good friend to me as a younger guy! He did flashcards to memorize Scripture and I'll never forget the one we learned together! Proverbs 26:14! I haven't seen Enos for many years! I'm in the process of trying to reacquaint! Asa for JRS JR. when he was younger way before the Walk junk was i
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You had a very special "awakening" experience that leads you out of the darkness my friend! I had a similar experience a few yrs ago when I was 58 yrs old! I'd been a 'Christian a for decades, thinking I was doing what I was supposed to be doing, under various denominations, mostly pentecostal, jumping through man's hoops, to righteousness! I had an experience with the H
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Kingdom relationships are those between Jehovah and his son's and daughters! A lot of damage has been done through false teachings! The kingdom of God is not meat or drink, but of righteousness, peace, and Joy in the Holy Ghost Romans 14:17 So I can understand the rejection of your KD proverb, (what IS that?)So if your 'proverb" was rejected, it was a double rejection because it
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Thank you! I'm so blown away at what God has shielded me from! I ws young when I hung out at Enos Bender's farm and was deeply dismayed when he told me about his plans to donate it to JRS and the Walk! So much I don't know about this stuff, but witnessed it being played out in front of me as I grew older! JRS was an incredible speaker, and when he started out, he was a Godly
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Fellas, it was starting to develop in the late 60's! if you were there in 72, you were the second round used to build shiloh , or the start of building!I lived next door and helped enos ! I quit going up there shortly aftyer Monty Ives arrived! He had aspirations of being a Veterinarian!
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I lived very close to Shiloh! I helped Enos Bender Farm the Farm before any buildings were built there! I remember Enos beinbg kicked off the place, how they mani[ulated his marriage, and how many of the peoiple i knew that went there, were merely shells of their former self! whee are you Bowman, where are you Monty Ives!
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Also to be sure I am an ordained minister, living a Spirit-filled life and not following man! I knew the Walk was big, but wow these posts on the forum are mind-boggling! Jesus is the answer, but letting man guide you will always take you places you don't need to go! JRS was an antichrist, PERIOD! I lived in the yellow house north of Richmond Iowa 50 yds from the south entrance to Shiloh!
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