RRMODERATOR: Can you please remove my post with the personal information regarding "Amy Sayer"? Apparently someone or several persons have decided it appropriate to attack her personally. That was absolutely not my intention and I want to thank the people who thought this a good idea! But it was my mistake for thinking there might be mature individuals interested in actual ch
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Well, I take it people again here do not want face their perpetuators. We are in the "ME TOO" era guys. This is a unique opportunity and I am saddened that no one wants to be part of what could be huge change. I'm not saying anyone of us would go back - OF COURSE NOT! But knowing what we know, I would think that at least some of you would want to seize the opportunity to possib
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Hi Nancy, I went to the LA school COL in the 90's. Probably a bit after your son as I will be 36 this year, but it's possible that I know who he is. My name is Anne. ~Anne
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Hi Everyone, I have not been on for a long time, nearly a year. I needed to stop thinking about it. I also realized there is nothing I can do. And keep moving forward. But I wanted to tell you and everyone here that something interesting is happening at CTLW. My parents called me today to say that Gary Hargrave is wanting to changing things there. Apparently, there has been a revelation
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SouthGate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That's why churches should be treated like a > business and no none profit status or no donation > write-offs. I disagree. The government should not be involved, as people don't want religion in government. But this is why the people in a church should study scripture on their own and kno
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Mostly everyone one on this forum is from the JRS days and less the G&M days, am I right?
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NickleandDimed Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > >> > > howmidoing, FB so members can connect. Find old > > friends. Good idea. > > > Yes to that. I enjoy relating to most everyone on > the forum even if we don't share the same
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Oh, Flossie May! I AM SORRY that all that happened to you! But I know for me it is very relieving to write out some of the pain. I suggest that you do in fact write a book!!! Your story would certainly make for an interesting read! And don't worry about your grammar, you got the points across perfectly! There are many of us here that have dealt with similar situations. Peace to you. I
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > PBS News Hour is running a 5 part piece on PTSD. > It started yesterday. I couldn't find this on my local station/pbs website. If you happen to watch could you let me know if they advertise a way to buy the series? Or what the actual title is. Please and thank you!
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > howmidoing: > Do you have a specific vision for what > people would discuss on a private FB group? Would > you have to take a selfie and share a photo of > yourself? I'm not on FB so I really don't know > much about how it works. LILYROSE: Not really at this point. It's just a
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LampShmamp Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Howmidoing, I enjoy your enthusiasm and quest to > galvanize the troops for change. I imagine we have > all dreamed about bringing down that organization > once and for all. Go for it. Have you thought > further than the theoretical? Optimally, to whom > do you see a letter or letters going, and w
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FCSLC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > howmidoing: > > I can’t do it. There are two shepherds (+wives) > that I don’t ever want to communicate with or > ever see again. My consolation is that heaven is > infinitely large and I will be able to live > happily apart from them forever. I will not make > the first move------there is
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Has anyone considered a large group letter writing campaign? Flooding the LW with letters from former members all over the country? Explaining how we believe they have twisted the scriptures for their gain and they are not winning souls for Jesus. And hurting people along the way? Or is everyone mostly scared of family ties still in LW and blow back from that? I mean this is what we do as
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lily rose Wrote: > "How to Cultproof your Kids" > > This book was written in 1993. LILYROSE: Do you know if this book is still in print? I searched quickly on amazon and could not find it. I would like to get a copy of it. Thanks!!
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rrmoderator Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A reminder to everyone: > > This message board is not a place to debate > theology or to promote a specific viewpoint > regarding religion. > > It is relevant to point out where a certain group > may have manipulated scripture to control people > and gain undue influence. > &
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oops! I re-read what I wrote, what I was trying to say is it SHOULD NOT be from only one source or person! Sorry about that!!!
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I have gone through many years of ignoring, denying God and seeking other forms of spiritual awareness or toying with atheism and Lilith-ism (extreme feminism) trying to kill my deep emptiness with things that can never fulfill me, drinking, drugs, "relationships". Always distracting myself but I can say honestly, that everything has always come back to Him. I couldn't deny that on
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I sure appreciate the new posters, as well as > those who have recently posted after taking a > break for a while. Everyone sharing their story > is certainly helpful to others. I spent a couple > of years with a shrink trying to sort through > things and perhaps the most important thing I >
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Note: Lorena is Rick's 4th wife. oops! you're right! I was corrected by a friend that knows much more about that then I! Tammy, Shannon, Maria, Lorena.... who will be next? Is it just me or do those sound like a special edition Barbie collection? No offense to the poor women involved.
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Thanks Lily. None of it would matter now to me if my dad wasn't still involved and my mom hadn't chosen to be buried next to John in the Shiloh cemetery. A place she never once visited when I knew her. Somewhere I can never visit her gravesite, a place she never lived or has any family connections too. It's just so weird. I think that hurts most.
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Really? who was the 1st? I only know of 3.
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I'm sorry as I am new to this forum, I am just catching up with some of the older posts. changedagain: I don't know if you already got this answered but to my knowledge (and my parents are very much involved) Rick is STILL in leadership over the youth at CTLW with his 3rd wife Lorena (whom I went to school with) which his 2nd wife Maria discovered him cheating with (big surprise ther
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Lilyrose, NickelandDimed: I understand and frankly I'm glad to talk about it!!! No, I have not had a chance to dig through too many old posts on here. I will try to make time for that. I was personally sexually abused multiple times by peers, stalked for years by one, I was terrified of him and his parents told my parents at one point (looks like we're going to be in laws someday
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This forum is really difficult to follow if you're not checking it everyday.:) SOUTHGATE: Thank you! I know that God loves me and has kept me. TMASON: Broken toy, that's funny & sad. NICKELANDDIMED: Are you serious, that you are scared and careful about what you post on here? That makes me a little nervous. I want to be free to talk here.... I'm open to PM message
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Hello all, I've been trying to follow the threads here. I'm glad I found this discussion forum. I was born into S. California church and subsequently left CTLW (they combined for Sunday service while I was in my teens) about 16 years ago after getting married and moving 3000 miles away. It took me years to realize that CLTW was indeed a cult. Mainly b/c I started attending other Chr
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