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5 years ago
june14
hi everyone, please note that the JangĀ“s cult bought recently the Orpheum Theater in St. Louis. Who are the new owners of the Roberts Orpheum Theater They recruit many new people. Joshua Allen is supposedly the leader but it is actually lead from behind by Koreans. And David Jang is pulling the strings in everything. They will recruit you and send you to Dover to receive training. They
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
june14
I wanted to warn everyone not to fall for missionaries from the World Olivet Assembly. They usually evangelise in the streets and on campuses and present themselves as Christians from Immanuel church or YEF or AM or Jubilee World. These are all front groups for a cult with David Jang on the top. David Jang is former moonie!!! He uses the same methods and once you fall for it, you will slave for f
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 years ago
holly_golightly
QuoteHitch QuoteThe power of the Gohonzon may not be fully apparent overnight, but if you strive earnestly in your Buddhist faith and practice for 10 or 20 years, you will achieve clear and indisputable results. June 15 th ,2012 WT pg. B i.e., give it lots of time, in order to cultivate your cognitive confirmation bias tendencies (It was supposed to be much more powerful, when I was in. I
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
holly_golightly
Quotemeh Reach out to people who aren't members. Form new friendships where you can . . . this is really important. We're starting fresh new lives now, and we are completely empowered as to who we want in them . . . we get to repopulate our mental landscapes with the people we choose - not those who are sadly and sickly programmed for someone else's get-rich/gain-power agenda. Than
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
holly_golightly
Thanks for your wise words Meh and Hitch - I totally agree with all the points you highlight above. Especially how it is up to us to set the boundaries. I think my reticence to speak out to these people comes from a fear that once I start I will never stop, and that I will just end up ranting! There is still so much I am suppressing about what I feel about this organisation. I am sure I w
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
holly_golightly
Quotemeh I talked to the friend that shakubuku'd me today; we've been friends for many years, and long before I signed on, so we have a lot in common outside the organization, and we talk nearly every day. I'm progressively more stunned at some of the total crap that comes out of her mouth. I've been laid off for awhile, and it's tough surviving on unemployment which wi
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
holly_golightly
It's funny how these things can be forgotten so quickly. I remember also being told that the long gongyo was essential, and a sign of being committed to the practice. I also used to find it mind numbingly painful and never-ending - the wasted hours I will never get back!! In the UK we were sold the shortened gongyo as a way of 'adapting this practice for the 21st century' as the
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
holly_golightly
QuotetsukimotoIn 2004, the Soka Gakkai-sponsored New Komeito Party voted to send the Japanese Self Defense Force to Iraq, despite the protests of many Japanese Soka Gakkai members. Basically, the larger and more powerful Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) asked them to -- and the New Komeito Party wanted to curry favor with them. Japan Times/March 2, 2004 
By Tetsushi Kajimoto
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
holly_golightly
Quotemeh Personally, I dread the day that ikeda-san pops his bespoke little clogs. Oh. My. God. The wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth that will occur! I'm sure that it will be publicized that his body does not corrupt and that he smells like roses . . . he'll probably wind up in a glass case like Lenin, except his will be a double-wide. I'm sure a few miracles will be attri
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
holly_golightly
QuoteSpartacus[ From the propaganda based GKI exhibit video: "Toda... went to prison with his mentor Makaguchi, for their arden protest of Japan's Imperial war... Ikeda determined to spend the rest of his life devoted to realizing Toda's dream for world peace." BULL COOKIES! IKEDA IS A FRAUD, NOT A HERO OF NON-VIOLENCE! His greatest accomplishment was single-minded
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
holly_golightly
QuoteTheVoidIkeda ghandi King nonsense I found this which may or may not be the edited version as they strung this out for a full day. Yes, that's the one that used to make me go all teary eyed - it seems so lame now.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
holly_golightly
Quotesleepy skunkQuotesixtysevenQuotesleepy skunkI was wondering for those who have actually been to the IKG exhibit, what kind of crap do they have in there? Is it artifacts like a real museum but just peppered with Ikeda crap or more like a creation museum (with the same bunch of crap with altered facts) to make the false association with Gandhi and King? Yellowness - crap. I'd like to
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
holly_golightly
QuotemehHer headstone will read "She just didn't chant enough." As I wrote, I only got through about a minute, but what a sad, angry young woman. Can you imagine what a fun person she must be to hang with? Betting that she doesn't have a single friend outside of sgi, and we all know how well that works out. It's hard not to watch that without thinking about bible-thump
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
QuoteHitchQuoteholly_golightly Have you checked out this one? Oh my. They are also playing a gongyo recitation during that "healing" session. Dawkins' blinking reaction during the 4:15 minute mark conversation with her says it all. He simply can't believe what he is hearing, and then some. I had a similar reaction when reading "Space & Eternal Life&qu
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
QuoteHitch Love Dawkins' documentaries. Am very familiar with them. I've posted this one before, but here it is again (Slaves To Superstition). The very beginning introduction has people chanting the magic NMRK words. Dawkins' reaction is priceless. It's exactly how I feel about it all now, too. - Hitch I love Dawkins too - I wish he (and others like him) were o
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
QuoteTaitenAndProud So I bought these two (got them for a really good price) but I hadn't hung them up yet when my Chapter WD leader decided to pay me a home visit. "Your home has such a lovely warm feel about it," she said. "It would be a shame for it to get a dark or even sinister atmosphere." What she was referring to was the hocus-pocus supernatural woo that, if
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
QuoteTaitenAndProudBack to the video: I just watched it O_O First funny point was where the lady in the gray T-shirt is first on camera, maybe 4 seconds in - she's carefully stepping *away* from the older Japanese lady in the red and black who's gyrating to that awful music! It was "SGI-Arcadia" - where is this? Another thing that amazed me about that video is that
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
Quotecorboy If you cant find anything, scold a member for being wrong to go to the bathroom. Maybe there is a shame tripping class taught as part of leadership training? Correct me if I am taking this too far. Am shocked that anyone would have the nerve to rebuke adults for going to the bathroom. I can only speak from my perspective regarding this incident but I feel in this case of the le
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
Quotecorboy Holly, its interesting that you express confidence in your ability to brew a proper cup of tea. Is it possible that you gave some hint that you enjoyed making tea for people, considered yourself competant to do so that perhaps, for that very reason, your SG supervisor knew that would be a good pressure point by which to instill insecurity? ID a place where you felt confident in y
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
QuoteHitchYou can either laugh, cry or give respect after watching the following clip . I give my respect to the lady in the front, wearing a gray t-shirt, off to the left side of the room when the camera pans around (she shows up a few times, at 0:25 seconds, 1:13, and 2:14 minute marks, before they stop including her in the pan around). I know exactly how she feels. Bless her heart. M
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
QuoteHitch I have a $oka-han "experience" to share (that I just remembered). I was doing $oka-han out at my local temple, I think it was for some kind of large shakubuku event. I was assigned out back to the dirt "parking lot" in a huge field. In between directing cars in and out of their spaces, shuttling members to and from, etc., I noticed that somebody has dropped the
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
QuoteShavoy What do you guys think: If die-harders were shown evidence that Sensei bought all of the 300 honorary degrees, what do you bet that there would be some justification in their minds to the tune of: "Sensei cares for learning and education, therefore his donation to these needy universities is a wonderful cause!" I think you are right Shavoy - it wouldn't matter what
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
QuoteHitch It's all kind of like a customized dosing of the kool-aid, targeted to specific groups of members, for specific purposes. Other countries in the International Cult Org. umbrella, have their equivalent "centers" (e.g., Trets, France , for Europe, etc.), too. - Hitch Yes, there was always such a big thing about Trets. On the one hand the guidance was that your
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
QuoteHitchThe Master & Disciple (I like the term, "follower" better, too) thing is a significant cognitive dissonance trigger for many members. In fact, that's precisely why the cult org. rewrote history (again) and changed it to the less loaded baggage terms "Mentor-Disciple." For most of my time in, it was always referred to as "Master." I remember well
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
QuoteTheVoid'Makes Sensei's heart your own' 'We can make a connection' 'We can make a dialogue' 'try not to think just chant' 'Sensei's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GREEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTT!!!' 'Make a connection with Sensei' Eeeesh why did I ever bother with these fruitcakes! You've reminded me of another one '
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
QuoteHitch I'm sure there are many, many more examples, too. If anybody cares to share theirs, I'd love to hear them for a good laugh. - Hitch Just one off the top of my head ................... FIGHTING DAIMOKU! I would sometimes be criticised by some of my fellow members for not doing enough of this (i.e. not shouting it at the top of my voice as if about to explode) and
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
QuoteSpartacus Strangely enough, the ONLY people who have read the first four chapters are from this site. I can't get anyone I already know (even my girl) to take so much as a single look at it. Consequently, it has become more difficult for me to generate the motivation and energy to return full force to the project. I just can't thank all the folks from the forum enough for the w
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
Quotesixtyseven These silly regressing rituals were performed best at the brainwashing in Trets. The whole concept is about giving you the feeling you are at highschool summer camp. For example in the restaurant the area was divided into vegetarians and non-vegetarians. Each table had a number of persons and the byakuren supervised the tables by a list. On the first evening she had a lot of stre
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
QuoteTaitenAndProud I could never forget that glaring example that you do NOT get what you chant for. Even when, by all measures, you should be able to get it even WITHOUT chanting! What kept me in was the "promise" that you could get things normally unavailable to you by chanting for them, that you could "bend the rules" of life and the universe, get promoted to the front
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 years ago
holly_golightly
Quotesixtyseven Fact is the SGI owns a paper signed by deceived sixtyseven. And I feel real sick when I think about that examination papers. Me too sixtyseven. I hate to think what SGI owns written under my name - exam papers, letters to Ikeda, poems, pictures, quotes - all sorts of things that I wouldn't agree with now. I guess there must be quite a few people who feel the same about th
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