Quotearchaeologisti really do not see how a person could be a part time manipulator and so I will simply just disagree with your assessment and points. manipulation is not going and eating someone's chicken. i think there si too much distortion in your definitions and application because you wiould put Billy Graham under the category of manipulation as well with those terms. for that matter
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Quotearchaeologistone doesn't need 14 of those characteristics either to be a manipulator, they can use just 1 Indeed, we have all the potential to be a manipulator because we have at least one of those. But, a "full time" manipulator had at least 14 of these characteristics. Quoteyour example of the chicken eater is not one of a manipulator but a selfish, mean person That is t
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QuotedsmSome of this does not make sense. There is nothing wrong with giving vague answers to questions unless the questioner has a right or a need for specific information. Manipulators often try to get very specific information from people they intend to manipulate. Vague answers are sometimes wisely self-protective. I understand you point of view with this issue. It is self-protective and t
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Hello everyone, Here, I would like to show you a list from a French psychomotor therapist named Isabelle Nazare-Aga. It's from her book titled Les Manipulateurs sont parmis nous (Manipulators are among us). Here's a link where it talks about the book but the site is in french language only. But if you google translate it, more below the page, you'll see the list eventually an
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It's a pleasure to share it. Plus, it's telling me that my wife and me were not alone to live this kind of situation. I'm very satisfied to have discovered this forum. Some people can see the scheme inside a cult and it's unfortunate that it goes in deaf ears when you try to discuss this subject with a cult member.
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I just wanted to share the following post from another thread: QuotenotanantiGnosticHi everyone I just I thought should write on a matter that has come to mind from time to time. I hope it will help others who may still be in the Gnostic Movement to think about this. It is obvious by the way the organization works, its heavy handy discipline against trouble makers and its complete inability
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It's my pleasure to share my experience and hope that others can see what kind of cult is the Gnostic Movement. QuoteKeir-"my Internal God, my Father who is within me, sent me" What other conclusion is he implying here. Once again he rips off the New Testament where Jesus's remarked that "I(he) and the father are one..that his Father in Heaven sent me (him)......&quo
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Quotedanji88He seems like a person who has his logic skills at a certain level, but on the other hand his social life has never been very good, as far as I've heard. He has always behaved strangely and really had no friends. He seems to have grown a lot of confidence though, by feeling that he's better than everyone else. This is the profile of a lot of people that are in a cult. One
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I was in a Gnostic movement in Canada which follows the teaching of Samael Aun Weor. I just get out recently and still have the memory of all I went through. I've talked about it in this thread:
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Hi everyone, I did get out of a cult group which uses principally the Samael Aun Weor teachings and those of Gurdjieff’s 4th way. It was in Canada, in the province of Quebec. They have an association in the two biggest cities of the province. Here’s a link to their website: You will see that there are three languages available just below the eagle icon (French, English and Spanish
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