Hi there Discerner, You are right, about not letting McHugh have that power. Sadly, many, in fact most former members are not strong enough to overcome that horrible residue. There have been several suicides of former members. I praise the true God, our Father, that He richly blessed my family, healing us from that mind-bending experience. My mother still carries unhealthy residue, but fra
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Yeah, I remember Barry, he was not as much of an egomaniac as many of the old-timers, or wanna-bes like Noah who just wanted to boss girls around, a real p***y if you ask me. So many of the Christ Family followers were searching for some inspiration, and many were veteran of other cults. It is easier to be homless that it is to be a productive member of society. The scars of being in a cult as
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And it looks like "saintmark" is on deck for the next banning. FYI, "freedom of speech" goes both ways, just plain mark, (you are not a Saint) you want cult recruiters to speak freely on this message board, but attempt to quiet us who disagree with them, that is a novel concept...NOT! This is not a public forum, this board is owned by Rick Ross, and he makes the rules h
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Yes there have been many stalking instances from CF members against exmembers, and no, I am not going to regale you with examples, I do not owe you an explanation nor evidence. As far as referring to Charles McHugh as "Amen", do you have a grip on written English? If so, note the quotation marks, this man referred to himself as "Amen", and had even legally changed his name (in
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Rick Ross said To whom it may concern: "inthewind" has been banned from this message board. Thank you Rick, I know it concerns me, thethirdj and margaret. It sure gets old listening to someone promote and defend the people who stole my childhood. You know, it takes a hell of a lot of damage to make a person actually GLAD that another human being is dead. These cult sympathiz
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inthewind said "I can't believe you could say something like that" Something like what? We are not on drugs, and we have crystal clear memories of what happened to us in the CF, what do you really expect from us?By the way, in case you did not notice, this is not the "Yay cults" website. The owner of this site is AGAINST cults, and these forums are for us to kinda ge
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"They also most often don't think highly of the cult leader that hurt them." Rick, that has to be the understatement of the year!!!! Ya think? I echo thirdj's comment, I am relieved that "Amen" is dead, I too worried that he would someday come and cause harm to my family, meaning more harm than he has already done. I have heard in my lifetime "never s
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Good riddance to bad rubbish
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Hi just plain Mark, I hope you figured out that you are not a Saint...LOL I am glad to hear that you got out, "escaped" is a really good word to describe that. I am also glad to hear that you have a lot of responsibilties, because to me that means security, roots, the thing that we never had in CF. God Bless you, and congrats on your recovery. I too carry some residue, but as man
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Really, what happened to you and me is certainly not as interesting at who Tiger Woods is sleeping with, or the Ocotmom. Do not lt it "ruin your life", you are still alive, and thier is still hope for you to reclaim your future. I make my own life, to hell with those who hurt me in the past, don't you think they have taken enough from you already?
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Hi there Discerner, Yep, you make sense, that is also not allowed in the Christ Family. Neither is logic. What amazes me is how utterly blind people can be. I do know some people who got out, but making a clean break is not so easy, there is mental baggage that is not easily erased simply by reading scripture. It is the proverbial "emotional scars" that will take a lifetime to sh
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No I did not, have never been to Minnesota. I did read online about her at your recommendation, and I do not think that she was Christ Family, but I could be wrong.
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Thank you for your compassion Yasmin, I was a child in the Christ Family, and my name is plastered in that book, swell, huh? I did not do any harm to the author, I just do not understand why she would do that. The Christ Family did not discourage members from going on the road alone, and it was never presented as a concern, in fact if one acted concerned for their safety, they were ridiculed
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Rick, I am not "ranting", just stating a fact. To answer your questions, no, there was not a retraction, apology or anything of that nature in Ms Clarke's book, and yes there has been a lawsuit filed. If someone wrote lies about you, you would not be happy about it. By the way, I am absolutely against the Christ Family, aparently you have not read any of my posts, there are
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Just wanted to mention that the book "In The Wind", contains slander and libel, Ms. Clarke did not have persission to use the actual names of individuals. She said ugly judgemntal things about *some* people who did her no harm whatsover. I did read her book, she was a hippie and druggie PRIOR to joining the Christ Family, they did not turn her into that. I am sure that she was harmed i
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Oh, yeah, they are still around, however the pratices have gotten really drug and sex oriented. The guy they claim is Jesus has been convicted of child molesting, selling meth and needles. he is a real jewel. My story in on another thread about the CF. Do you mind telling me who your hubby is? You could send me a private massage. My mom and sisters and I got out in 1981 after us girls had gr
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No, I do not hate Christmas. I do have emotional feelings about all the Christmases that I spent being lost and abnormal. Something that I do to try to reconcile this hurt feeling is to give generously to th Angel Tree, to try to make some poor children have a fun Christmas. I also remember that this celebration is to honor the birth of Jesus Christ, and that I love.
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Hi there, my story is quite different from you who were left behind, I was brought along. I honestly do not know what is worse, but for what it is worth, we got out, my mother also. My mother and my siblings have made a clean break, that was in 1981, and we never looked back. We are all happy, productive members of society, and want NOTHING to do with those wierdos. So, yes it is possible t
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She should stay in prison, to let her out sets a precedent for a ton of other inmates. People have to be held accountable for their actions...period. Too many dangerous folks are running loose as it is. Oh, and boo hoo hoo for her hardships, I have a dear friend who is a Holocaust survivor, that lady had it rough, and is a sweetheart who would not harm any living thing.
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Because the cults (Christ or God based) use the Bible and Jesus as a weapon, I have not "turned against" the Bible, or God for that matter, but I have most certainly turned against organized religion. I absolutely do not trust anyone who is "overly religious"...give me the creeps.
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Dina, why do you want to know? Get on with your life, stay away from this poison person....life is too short. What benefit do you expect? They let murderers go free nowadays, so do not expect justice.
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For me, trying to assimilate with the human race, and earning a living totally consumed many years of my life. Just recently I have the luxury of enough free time to even reflect on this 27 year struggle to overcome severe brainwashing, and complete depletion of any self worth I might have had. The "reality shows" got nothing on me, for sure. I am truly blessed to be alive an
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They are very much still active, in Hemet California, you should look up Lightning amen on the Riverside county court records, yes they are violent. They do not just smoke pot, many members have been arrested for selling meth and needles. Lightning Amen (legal name) was found guilty of child molestation, I am not certain of the sentence he received. These people are evil from the word go, an
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The Christ Family.which was based outside of Yuma Arizona at the time. The leader, Lightning Amen claims to be the second coming of Christ This experience completely robbed me of my childhood, left me an emotional cripple, and severely socially stunted in every way you can imagine. We were not allowed to go to school, wear shoes, play, have fun of any kind, in fact we were called "h
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