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18 years ago
nativeflower
Yeah I agree well I went to the rick ross professional dirrectory and found a tharapsit in Atlanta...3 hours from me I can travel there by greyhound and city transport...I dont drive..never learned how. Anyway you are right, thanks again Jojo
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
nativeflower
thank you so much for setting the record straight..you are so smart....how did your learn so much about all this?? JoAnne
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
nativeflower
I agree it is wise. and also wise to question the sincerity of anyone or anything that is a nown that produces a verb JoAnne
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
nativeflower
I read that thing about disassocitive disorder, and it decribed my mental breakdown in Savannah to a tee. That was 5 years ago... I have overcome it through meds, however I have a problem. During my breakdown, I slept 20 hours a day, so I did not have to deal with my nightmare of a reality. Well as mentioned in the article, when a person first wakes up, or drifts to sleep they can feel minor, te
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
nativeflower
I was in a group called New christian fellowship....they branched off become a cell church and then became "Banner of the nations" in savannah georgia ..they went from a penicostal=like church to an eartern/penicostal type of church that took in 150,000 dollars a year from a cogergation of 40 peoople do you know anything about this? JoAnne
Forum: Destructive Churches
18 years ago
nativeflower
I asume you are talking about "evangelim"???? if not clarify please? JoAnne
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
nativeflower
the cult I was in encouraged hours of "seeking the spirit" one time I did it ..I saw a white light and imense fear I heard a voce in my inner being say "stop now" and I didn't and all the sudden imese fear overcome me and I felt though I have reached the land of no return and for months on end I felt hollow, soul-less like the tin man on wizzard of Oz....I thought I was
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
nativeflower
well I have noticed a major increase of herbs, meditation, and chiropracty this worries me because ...1 herbs are not conroled and tested for side effects like drugs are ..some are just as bad or worse than drugs A friend of my mom's developed strange autoimunne problems..she was negitive for aids/hiv but doctors were dumbfounded as to why she was getting worse and worse....come to fin
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
nativeflower
Yes I have become very sceptical of any organized religious group..I feel that I am safe to follow my heart and seek my own temple within me and to not engage in organized religion ..although I do take lessons from many religions I choose not to be a member of any particular group... I have some friends that are unitarian and they are nice people so no offence to anyone..but I agree with you
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
nativeflower
interesting point..I feel though...without a certain knowing of some truth I am lost..I guess that goes back to my christian programing I have been continuing to de-prgram myself after 3 ..no 5 years ..I just learned that I am ulimately responcible for my own actions...I was programed to believe that God controls everything I do and I am not responcible for my actions because he controls me .
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
nativeflower
Bonnie..thank you...I try to be happy..ususaly am I did not know AA was cultic....kinda weird ..but not cultic...I went to an OA (overeaters anoyomous) and ....it felt pathetic..I cant accept that I have no control over myself....I am not that much of a wimp...but alot of people are helped by AA..but the whole you cant help yourself thing..ya from a rational mind..is kinda weird Not to mentio
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
nativeflower
I totaly understand what you are saying....I think that we go out looking for love, commitment, acceptance...etc etc what if all those things that we wish others would give us.....that we would give ourselves I believe that what we long for and search for diligently...is what we need to give ourselves example searching for acceptance? what if I accept myself as I am? searching for bel
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
19 years ago
nativeflower
do less acomplish more.....work towards do nothing acospish everything ya right!!!! so I am suposed to meditate my way to feeding my chickens...better yet..I will teach my chickens to meditate and they stop feeling hungry and live on "spiritual food" it is amazing how much shit someone can cram in a brain Jojo
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
19 years ago
nativeflower
Coz...ya that is true....new agers really do think they are free minded. however they are never farther from it...most new agers I noticed come from some sort of conservitive background like the ol' mountain baptist church so like many people they think that they gained freedom of mind.....since they dont know what that is..they just trade one ruler for anouther Sadly only trauma
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
19 years ago
nativeflower
your cool ....ya ...I question whether faith/works is the same as the phesudo effect...."the power of possitive thinking" etc. etc. As a psych major I know that ideas such as faith, majic etc is very herd to test like people have claimed that talking to plants makes them grow...is is physical or spiritual..turns out that the carbon monoxide we breathe out is what plants breathe
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
19 years ago
nativeflower
On a level I totaly understand that I believe in science...science and religion should never clash..for science is based on the scientic method a very thorough experimentation method..and cognitive therapy aggree...I took quite a few psych classes ..cognitive/behavoral approaxh has the most research backing... I also understand skeptnitism....it is important to be skeptical....it si our def
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
19 years ago
nativeflower
Wow very interesting stories ya'll have and I guess although I dont worship in a million dollar building or feeding tigers in a monisary or sit upside down and chant for hours...I have developed a connection to what I would call divine.. However I agree with the humanism view of life as a human with civil morals and life of dignity..however like Angela I could not shake the notion of a high
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
19 years ago
nativeflower
leopardgirl, Interesting question....I tried be athiest..but I cant ..somehow I just "know" thier is a divinity and a spiritual realm. Although athiests get agervated with people like me. I cant expain how or why I know the only thing I can say is much like a brilliant man once said The heart knows things that reason knows not good luck JoAnne
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
19 years ago
nativeflower
Star ..I feel like ...I dunno....like not such a weirdo after all well since you want to know what I believe.....and with absolutely no presure for you to conform..these are just my beliefs ..but if you wish I share ..I dont mind. I believe in reincarnation...but not like the hindus or the Budhists..I believe I just continue in one life to the next ..gaining wisdom in each lifetime..forever
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
19 years ago
nativeflower
well to those who know me..and those who dont....I think I have come to peace with myself about the cult I was in...after seeing a therapist and taking apart the cultic ideas one by one. well I feel like me again! however a wiser, more skeptical me. the controversial thing I wanted to ask.... is after this backround info. (disclaimer note: I am not sharing this with an agenda to preach i
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
19 years ago
nativeflower
hey..great idea!!!! I think I will do that to my former cult leader...you rock!! JoAnne
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
19 years ago
nativeflower
hey..thanks all...I have been kinda worried abouit that. I know we are not alowd to talk about politics on this site (due to goverment policy about npo's and political action) But it concerns me how much Bush administartion is "estabishing a religion" And thats where I guess in CAN be a concern on this site. I am concerned that Bush and his administation may futher open do
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
19 years ago
nativeflower
I go on the internet to find the exact article of seperation of shurch and state proposed by rosevelt...... and I get a butt load of christian extreemist websites claiming that the act never existed that it just a myth. I keep looking and I cant find it.....does it exist ..if so can someone post the exact article or act or whatever it is? JoAnne
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
19 years ago
nativeflower
good idea!!! xan you let fbi in on local cult activity or is that a legal matter protected by fredom or religion act?? JoAnne
Forum: Hate Groups
19 years ago
nativeflower
Thank you Toni...Will look into it soon JoAnne 8)
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
19 years ago
nativeflower
I am in that same school of thought.... If it is a truly "divine" tallent, why should you have to pay for it. thats why I say he is the Benny Hinn of alternitive spirituality. One time that dude came to my college, he is very magnetic in character, people seem to get so wrapped up in his charisma, that they dont really listen to what he is saying.....If he had the charisma of a
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
19 years ago
nativeflower
well we have similar probs her....my family is very libral, but we live in georgia....and so on ..my mom is caucasian ..but she marched in the martin lurther king parade, and pointed out that the school zoning was an deleberate effort to segergate the schools. I dated an african american man ...so we caused quite a stir in our comunity. oh by the way..the poilice have to answer to the athority
Forum: Hate Groups
19 years ago
nativeflower
I was in a charasmatic church like that....I later found out that passing out in ther spirit has nothing to do with God or satan.....it is hypnosis....when the person is in this altered state they are more accessable to brainwashing....beware of chuches who practice this secondly she is deliberatly trying to divide the family by calling your children satanic......those are fightin' words
Forum: Abusive and Controlling Relationships
19 years ago
nativeflower
I read a book called "what smart women know" and it talks about all the games that these men play and the different types of abuse and it also addresses the issues that women have that cause them to be drawn into these relationships in the first place, and it talks about what to look for in a man and what to avoid. And how to tell if a man is abusive on the first date by oberving subtle
Forum: Abusive and Controlling Relationships
19 years ago
nativeflower
I have a friend that was a member of lds...she said she quit because they had negitive oppressive views of women. I dont know much about them myself JoAnne
Forum: Abusive and Controlling Relationships
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