Thanks for answering my question, I can see more clear now, but have to look deeper into it.
There is a zenstory about people talking about detachement, without knowing what they are talking about (I forgot where I found it) :
When the Tesshu, a master of Zen, calligraphy and swordsmanship, was a young man he called on the Zen master Dokuon. Wishing to impress Dokuon he said, “The mind, the B
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