jewls, Thanks for to book referance. I tried to find it for sale on the shelf's and came to find out there are only 19 copys left for sale by by Barns and Noble in the nation. I orderd a copy there. I also found some on Amazon.com for sale, new and used. It sounds very interesting I'v read very little about the womans perspective on mormonism since most of the studying I did was wh
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Oops! I didn't post that right, I din't buy the book I was looking at it. Sorry I clicked submit befor changeing it.
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Hi, cultsurvivor. the group I'm from is worth over $100,000,000 and as a member I worked for next to free. There are some groups in the making and some already in place from my group for those reasons. And I'm working to get local state and fedral grant money to help in the crises of hundreds of disturbed youth leving and being excomunicated from my group. You may qualify fo
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hellow every one on this thred. I have done exhasted studys on the mormon church, including the part that was left behind prior to the abandonment of polygamy in 1889. @rrmoderator, Joseph smith did have limited understanding, but for his time he was very educated. He cam from a highly developed academic family and part of the "book of mormon" was his knowlage of what the spanish
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Toni, I think the word your using is, prothises also called proskomide, I just loked it up for spelling. It fits your scentance. Also, jewls: well spring retreat is a very good option if you can spend two weeks. it's kid'a expencive, well not realy concidering the cost of therapy, and you need to suply your own transportation. I'v contacted them as one of my options. I cont
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toni, hi. I did get in touch with a theripest and I did find allot of info that helped. I no longer have to wonder if the psychologests I'v seen are in on some big scam against me. I was able to, for the first time see why they cannot help me, that is cause they don't know how and are not traind to deal with the issues I am, and maney of us, are faced with. This was a big rileaf to
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I just ran across this, it tells a story that discribs many of my own experiances, because I was in the same boat as many of these boys.........expendable and unwanted by their church. Oh BTW. the link .factnet.org dosn't work... but I was able to get there thanks. Ok I just spent the last hour and a half searching those sites and I did'nt find any therapists or hte like. I
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Before Rome became a christion state christianity was a considerd a problematic cult. It even thretend the power of the Autocracy that exsisted in the Roman empire prior to its merging with that Autocracy around 200 AD. Like jewls said, the dawn of time. Ever since man created scociety man began to manipulate that scociety. Not so much a trend as a scophisticated scientific aproch to its
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I'll share some things that helped me. A few things among many. I think this is from, The Book Of Ballance And Harmony I know its from the Tao Te Ching. I take this as wisdom and not religous babble. "Weapons are inauspicious instruments, not the tools of the enlightened. When there is no choise but to use them it is best to be calm and free from greed, and not celebrate victory.
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toni, I fully understand your running faster to to catchup. In my way I always called it taking two steps at once. I'm still doing that. Thanks for your concern of my academic situation it dose help. Maney people tell me I'm very inteligent, or even genious (allot) and yes I'd like to further my education I'v thought seariously about it for a couple of years now. I seem t
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A sister I havn't tlalked to in more than 11 years.
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I have a sister maried to Winston Blackmore there.
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I doubt we'v met, but one never knows. It wouldn't suprise me if we had. I'v visited many of the same places and people's groups. Colorado city has two subsiquint groups, the first being Jeffs and the latter is Hammon and Timson. I'v talked quite a bit with the latter, since they seem more open. The Jeffs groupe is known as the first ward and the latter the second wa
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Any Poligamust religon that demands secrecy from it folowers through coersiv means is in fact a destructive church. And all the polygamust religons I know of are destructive.
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First of all I'd like to say that I'm from one, a polygamust patriachy. I know how many lives have been and are being destroyed by these patriarchy's. It's logical to say that when one race or sex rules over the other very bad thing's happen. Look at south Africa, early American slavery and slavery in genral. One can see similar effects. It's called unritio
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I have a couple of friends who hooked up with the UPC. all of them differant churches I'v heard about service at one and atended another, not for want of church but curious to know what it was about. The one I attended was certenly a cult I was there for one month of sundays and o couple of wensday's. It reminded me of the polygamust cult I came from in many respects only a whole
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Polygamy: the practice or conditionof having more than one spouse, esp. wife, at one time. If there are I'd like to know how many and to share expiriance. Mostly I'm thinking about fundamentalist mormons. If your not from mormon back ground this would be verry interesting to me since all the plig's I know are from mormon backgrounds. Including myself.
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Oh! jewls! I forgot to mention in my last post that I formaly had my user name changed. So I ask nicely:D if you will please edit your post ot change my name to the one I'm using now. Thank's verry much :) Oh and I'm verry sory to hear about you stillborn thats verry verry sad. :cry: I hope the very best for you and your family.
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H'a I knew you where a "plig kid". (I posted the thred toni started first). I also am a plig kid. I'll pm, you where from when I have 10 posts. I'd like to give as little detail here as possable. I have met with the kingstons they tried to bring me into there fold about 6-7 years ago one time when I was visiting the little family I have in Utah. I think I led t
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@ jewls, your doing better than me, I hope. I'v never been able to have a relationship last more than a month. I always somehow seem to sabatauge it every time. Getting close to people is the hardest thing for me. I always look for where they might be trying to take me for a ride or screw with me. Since I rarely see or talk to any of my family, ever, I have deep abandonment issues a
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Yes I have very similer experiances with buisness and relationships. Do to these kind of abuses: psycological manipulation mind control memory supression memory impresion brainwashing emotional abuse psycological abuse psycological sexual abuse reconstructive training controlled thought reform sleep control physical, emotional, phycological, social, sexual and sleep deprivation w
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Hallow jewles, Hows it going? First let me say that I don't think a shelter, or at least in the taditional sence, would work or be a good idea. But I don't know every thing. Comeing from where I came from a shelter would not be Ideal unless you had a whord of people coming from cults all at once needing help. Most of these people do need help. I think the best thing would be to
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