Day 4 Sunday - Graduation We were told to attend the fourth day being "dressed for success". There was dancing when we came in as well as after each break. We had been given homework to do a "completion" or reconciliation of a past relationship. People shared their experiences of contacting parents and other relatives to heal old wounds. There was also sharing fr
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Friday, June 11th there's a segment to air on television about James Arthur Ray Sedona sweat lodge. I was at some friends' house Tuesday night and saw the blurb about it, "What Happened Inside?" with pics of the death lodge, and a "haggard-Ray" pic from his bail hearing. The channel I'm not sure of, but believe it will be on NBC Dateline. It will definitely ai
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James Ray is still conducting his LGAT seminars, days after the deaths. What a crock of bullshit. Why doesn't someone in the media, or at a seminar, stand up and read him his own OUTRAGEOUS release of liability, which describes the precise life-threatening danger of his own seminars? Looking for answers? Confused? About what? About how to avoid jail and being responsible? About ho
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Maybe there's hope for freeing Ted Williams yet: Ex-Mets catcher Mike Piazza says Alcor mistreatment of Ted Williams is 'crazy' BY CHRISTIAN RED DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER October 7th 2009, 9:47 AM "It's crazy. Just bizarre," Piazza said Tuesday night, referring to the newly released book, "Frozen," written by former Alcor COO Larry Johnson. The D
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Ex-Mets catcher Mike Piazza says Alcor mistreatment of Ted Williams is 'crazy' By Christian Red DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER Tuesday, October 6th 2009, Five years after Mike Piazza reached out to Ted Williams' oldest daughter Bobby-Jo Ferrell, offering to help Ferrell and her husband Mark with their legal fight over the remains of the Hall of Fame Red Sox, the former Mets
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I don't know why the forum hasn't notified me of new posts this past week! Been super busy with work (which is great in these troubled economic times WITHOUT chanting :) I've been missing tons of great responses. QuoteYzak And like you mentioned Awaken7, when people come to you saying that their philosophy is the ultimate experience you will have, it is because something not
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This entire discussion thread includes a discussion of the LEC disclaimer form mentioned by Anticult. The situation referred to happened August 24 2008--so its recent. My husband lost his job b/c he would not do the LANDMARK FORUM The intense public criticism SeanK refers to is from people whose lives are being disrupted. That's far beyond 'criticism'. Its bearing witn
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We need help! I have no idea where to start. My husband lost his job yesterday because he refused to go to the Landmark forum 4 day induction. He was tricked into going to the seminar last Tuesday night. When he told his boss that he wanted to discuss the program with me (his wife) his boss ignored him and signed him up anyway & paid the $500. He said that he wanted him to join. He told him
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LOL... It's all around funny to me that, after all this time and after all the attempts to dress the stuff up with Wittgenstein or Heidegger or, god knows, Plato, Aristotle, Sartre, who else?, (notice they NEVER mention Napoleon Hill or Alexander Everett), it's still and underneath all, just old ElRon at the core of all Landmark stuff. Here's an excellent old post from us
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QuoteAn acquaintance complains, "If they are really offering a life-changing experience, why isn't it free?" I think quietly of the collection plate at church, reserve my judgment in true Landmark fashion, and gently add, "Perhaps you can come on Tuesday night? The collection plate at the church is optional, and the money is generally used for the betterment of the church an
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I posted on this board several years ago wondering whether or not I should actually go to the Landmark Forum that I'd signed up for. In the end, I did end up going to it. Stupid? Perhaps, but on the positive side, I ended up walking out in the middle of the third day. By that point, it just seemed so ridiculously obvious to me that they were after money and nothing else. It was actually k
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Here we go, I am delighted to see that so many has chosen to be here this weekend. I am really committed to make this weekend valuable for you! I am one of the best coaches in the world and I am here for you. I get offers constantly to work for corporations that could give me 10 times the salary but I choose this work since it is so gratifying. 94 % of the people doing the forum reports ver
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Day 4 Sunday - Graduation We were told to attend the fourth day being "dressed for success". There was dancing when we came in as well as after each break. We had been given homework to do a "completion" or reconciliation of a past relationship. People shared their experiences of contacting parents and other relatives to heal old wounds. There was also sharing from
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KC: Thanks again. I went to page 41 and read all of Juker’s posts. I guess that since I never attended a service pastured by Thieme I cannot offer any true honest insight. As for Juker’s stuff about Thieme firing everybody, and taking total control, there are posts in the earlier pages from current members and others that say this never happened, or that there are deacons and elders. Ag
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This thread opened up my eyes to what goes on during the forum regarding trance induced mind control. Please read it. I hadn't thought about that before. I was definitely one of those that snapped during the weekend and became a landmarkcloned individual. I did the Advanced course about 2 weeks after the forum and was recruited to the leadership program during that course before I
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"EVENING SESSION "III. TRANSFORMATION AS A WAY OF LIVING" "In The Landmark Forum, the notion of possibility moves from an abstract ideal to a day-to-day living reality. Life becomes framed in a new way. The way we approach the world, and the way the world approaches us, changes. The Landmark Forum leaves you with an ability to relate to life with new freedom and power. The
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From the syllabus again: "EVENING SESSION "I. NEW POSSIBILITIES, BREAKTHROUGH RESULTS, AND A QUICK REVIEW "In this last three-hour session, participants share with each other, and with the guests they’ve invited to join them, the new possibilities they’ve created for themselves. Key discussions and critical insights are revisited, deepening our understanding of the distinction
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'MONDAY THOUGHTS' I have reviewed my posts and before I pass to describe the tuesday night I would like to add this one post to summaries what said and fill a lot of gaps. I have read once about landmark: "some groups are dangerous, but they are not mind controlling cults. Some groups are cults, but they're innocuous. Landmark is one of the few groups that manages to be
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QuoteSaneAgain Do you have a link to that video in a format other than torrent? the video is on streaming here: I'm gonna comment on the tuesday night soon. I have something to say about that too.
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Another angle on enrolling - aside from the tuesday night 'graduation' for enrolling and all the other overt pressures to enroll, I think another factor is the isolation that comes from the commitment to maintain secrecy about the trainings. You can't talk to other people who've done the training because all you get is gobbledy-gook (at best, if you really question anything t
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"DAY THREE "V. ACCESS TO BEING EXTRAORDINARY "Each of us would like to be extraordinary: to have our lives matter, to excel in the areas that are important to us – our families, our work, our intimate relationships, our financial futures. Every day we are presented with the opportunity either to live a business-as-usual life, or to create something beyond who we’ve been and what
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"DAY THREE "II. CHANGE VS TRANSFORMATION "We take for granted that things “are” a particular way. To effect change, we go to work on altering circumstances, the people around us, even ourselves. In this session, we explore the difference between change and transformation. Change is essentially a comparison to something that previously existed. By its very nature, change is past-b
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Unfortunately the Tuesday night meetings don't shed much light on what really goes on inside the training room. They'll probably have everyone mingle and introduce themselves using an alternate name. They will draw a picture of a heart or a diamond and make a comparison to an individual soul. From there they will have everyone pair up and the "investigators" will discuss so
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One of my friends has recently gotten involved in this training. One of her "good friends" had told her that it really changed her life and my friend should really go... In fact, this other girl paid the fee for the Quest training. This weekend she is at the Summit training. She keeps telling all of us concerned friends that if we have any questions we can call the center or go to her T
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Oh, and this... QuoteSome definitions before reading the text below. CO$: Church of Scientology (COS). Squirrel: Someone who left Scientology. Suppressive: People Scientologists don't like. Landmark Education by Andy Testa by Andy Testa Doug Shelton (dshelton@nps.navy.mil) posted: Please give any info on landmark "forum" program. Is this similar to scientology. Was th
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I saw that people are awaiting my report on Day 3 ... I assure that I am not affiliated in any way to LEC. Anyway, the morning of day 3 started out with participants reading letters addressed to someone with whom they wished to be "complete." Some of the stories were really powerful... One guy did his in the form of a rap that rhymed pretty well. Another letter was so touchi
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Kept hoping to see Trooper's report of Day 3 of his Landmark Forum, guess he wasn't for real or "he got it"! Too bad either way. I've been spreading the word on these Forumists, since I endured my three day exercise in "just to what extent making money can go". I guess I should have really gone to the Tuesday night "joyfest", I missed the finale. I
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My wife is a consultant and her current employer paid for her to attend a Landmark Education Forum in Sacramento, Ca. She signed me up, as well as our 20 year old son who we are trying to move in some positive directions. Well, it took us just about three hours to figure the scam that is Landmark Education. I kept racking my brain trying to remember where I "experienced" this before,
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QuoteajinajanWill be interesting to see if anyone actually does this and posts an update. next Tuesday night I work. however, when I can do this, I think I will.
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My wife took the Landmark Forum over the weekend. In terms of the genesis of our relationship in the past year, going to LF was step 4 or so. Step 1: Grew apart because of various issues (the marriage grown cold)...mistakes made on both sides. Step 2: Partner seeks fulfillment outside the marriage. My wife attended the funeral of an ex-boyfriend and "fooled around" with someone th
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