__________QUOTE______________________ About Us History Trellis House was purchased in February 2007 after a year of dreaming and searching by Marc and Rebekah Beneteau. Rebekah had been living for 5 years, and Marc 3 years, in the Yonkers Morehouse, and we both had taken a lot of courses with the Lafayette Morehouse (previously More University). The experience of living in the comm
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There appears to be some new information posted on the Janaki blog? Its written in red, in the middle of the page, linked below. Its about how one of the houses in Barstow, the basement was filled with boxes of books of this kind of material. Now of course, the trained eye can see the direct copying, and slight modifcation of various techniques, as has been shown many times in this thread
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Quotegreg hamDid Byron Katie have a legitimate spiritual awakening or was her "stroke of insight" simply a business strategy? 30000$ to spend time with her......katie is a con (...It is actually $ 4985.) That is the big question. According to her followers, there is no doubt about that. According to those who are starting to have second thoughts about BK and the work, there is
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Although I'm not one to judge without knowing all the facts...this is unfortunate to hear. I've enjoyed the books I've read from Seung Sahn. Many years ago I was interested in learning about Buddhism and attended both a Theravada and Zen school. The people at the Zen school were very kind but I chose to stop going after a couple of visit based on the cult like atmosphere and the
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a little follow-up to this post. Byron Katie Backstory: its also interesting to have brought up the concept of the Byron Katie backstory. Its very obvious to even a casual researcher, that basically the entire BK backstory, has been re-written many times, even in her earlier books, the Story is quite different. She studied A Course In Miracles, has copied Ken Keyes' material, attende
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There are quite a number of blogs who are seemingly trying to counter the criticism that is coming out about the Byron Katie seminars. If anyone is inside any of the Byron Katie forums, or gets the email newsletters, etc, and if there are any "suggestions" in there about how people can "move the work" by making blog posts, and things of that nature, it would be helpful to g
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It is normal to appreciate a technique from which one has benefitted. But, IMO, people dont just seem to appreciate The Work for its purported benefits. They seem protective of The Work, even when they express concerns about BK. Being appreciative is not the same as being protective. If you were capable of benefitting from The Work--you might have had the same benefits or perhaps even
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QuoteCruzThe other day, my friend who led me to Byron Katie's (no longer) Open Forum shared a recollection that intrigued me to some extent. She recalls being rather surprised when the very first BK book came out, several years after Katie’s alleged experience and quite some time into their friendship. For, prior to this publication, all this time not a cockroach had been mentioned. Not even
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I just came upon a critique of "A Course in Miracles" and want to include it in this thread, since I recall someone mentioning that when Byron Katie was in rehab, they were doing the Course in Miracles there. Could be that's where Byron Katie got at least part of her approach. Also I know plenty of people on the Advaita trail who have done or attempted to do the Course. (I tried
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So much of what Stephen Mitchell says does not add up. For example, in the email quote below, he denies that Byron Katie studied Ken Keyes material in the Halfway-House. How does he know? Was Stephen Mitchell there in 1986? Was he also hiding under Byron Katies bed in 1986? (she says she slept on the floor anyway, with no bed...Stephen Mitchell doesn't even seem to remember that part of
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It says below the therapist Byron Katie used to work with back in the halfway house, mentioned in A Cry In The Desert, was someone named Hannah. Hannah. Someone in the media needs to interview the therapist Hannah from the halfway-house. QuoteThe Anticult Read this thread, and it shows how in the suppressed Byron Katie book, A CRY IN THE DESERT, they talk in detail about how Byron Katie stud
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This passage shows what a conscious manipulator Stephen Mitchell is, trying to pretend that Byron Katie doesn't read books, what a joke, what a scam. Just bold-faced BS, right in your face.. Read this thread, and it shows how in the suppressed Byron Katie book, A CRY IN THE DESERT, they talk in detail about how Byron Katie studied A Course In Miracles, and many other programs and methods.
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Another quote from the Janaki-Byron Katie saga: QuoteAfter these emails, I spoke with my friend from the Muktananda days, the one who first introduced me to Katie, and I told him what had happened between Katie and me. He said, "And she got most of The Work from the Course in Miracles, because they were all reading that in the halfway house, that is where the turnarounds come from. She al
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GOE, its true in all of these LGAT seminars that they don't work on everyone. Its a numbers game, and they know it. They advertise widely, and it bounces off some people, some buy a book or two, while some others get deeply hooked into it. Your friend was possibly a person who was not in too much pain in life, so The Work made her/him feel worse. The Work is ultimately all about creat
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I was the one who started that post, after I noticed disgusting behavior and oppinions on their website. I left the group when I read a post a girl made, who was only 15. (I'm 18). She asked if she should quit school because of 2012, and she said to her mother "you're just my Earth mother". Gnosticweb also claims that gay people are "malignant creatures. All doo
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by the way, in the banned, burned, suppressed, censored book on Byron Katie called "A Cry In the Desert", they talk a lot about how Byron Katie used to go to many AA 12 Step meetings, for a long period of time. One assumes after her mental breakdown, (which probably did happen), she may have gone into that alcoholic treatment center "halfway house", where Byron Katie was t
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The end of the book, A Cry In The Desert, is extremely revealing. The writer, Christin Lore Weber was a former nun, and was extremely mystical and naive and far too trusting, and thus was completely unaware of the methods being used by Byron Katie. (I will detail those methods soon, but they include the nude bare-breast embracing female "workshops" that would happen in water, and man
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Hi Pegasus, Just want to let you know that the ''turning inward'' I referred to was the ''Course in Miracles'' type. I think that you are introspective but it seems to be a very good thing in your case. I always thought self analysis and introspection was a step towards self improvement and growth. The self centered response of the women who would not h
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Pegasus, I think Keir is right on about finding ex members of your cult or a group was like yours. That ''fear of being normal'' doesn't sound crazy at all. I had that exact fear. I can so totally relate to what you are saying. Cult leaders ingrain in our minds the idea that the ''masses'' are bad. Political
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HI everyone I am relatively new here and I am trying to de-brainwash myself after having my life dominated by a guru based cult from age 18 to 30. After I left my cult I tried to find out what true spirituality was. I went to groups incl Tolle and Course in Miracles and read new age books as well as some schools of psychotherapy. I thought that Tolle for example was legit because he was prop
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I have been thinking about disputing my cultic beliefs and separating the good from bad in what I absorbed from my group. I would say that I am pretty good at identifying what I am feeling and thinking and needing; I can observe myself fairly well, so you would think that would be an advantage in this introspective process. However today I am noticing something unexpected: I feel as if there a
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Hello corboy, Thanks for all the info! I recently discovered Steve Salerno's Shamblog. I haven't read his book yet, and this is the first I've heard of www.selfhelpinc.com and some of the others you mentioned. You're right about some therapists being a gateway. It seems a lot of them endorse and teach classes on A Course in Miracles. I find most self-help is badly writte
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Hello everyone! I've been dealing with health issues for some time now and whilst consulting with regular MDs (who were of no help) and a naturopath (the most helpful, so far), I've also been reading the works of people such as Louise Hay, Doreen Virtue and Wayne Dyer... (And yes, I also read The Secret and started A Course in Miracles, but couldn't get past the first few exerc
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I have also done A Course In Miracles and found it to be a pretty similar brain washing scheme like landmark. Only that you do it at your own pace. The "Course" tells you that you are living in unreality. That this world is just a dream. The "Course" is supposedly Jesus Christ's voice being channelled. Course in Miracles made me think that the world we live in is not s
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Hi Fascinating reading (this thread) Brilliant definition of integrity, Pauker. Is there a list already of key ideas which have helped people unlock themselves from Landmark? It seems to me that breaking free of Landmark is like realising that you have been deceived (am I right?)- a terrible, terrible gut-wrenching feeling, but one which I also know. My situation didn't involve an
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QuoteThe Anticult.... Byron Katie is one of the most damaging people out there in the New Age, because her audience seems to have no idea of anything she is doing. How can that be? How can people not see what she is doing, its so flagrant? She is doing much of it right out in the open, but people are not paying attention. This seems to be due to her Targeting and blinding her target audi
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Hi RB, I like what you wrote. Very unbias. I have noticed the idiot and angry words used before on people who can fall for these things. I guess it's time for me to share a little bit of my experience and why I know that Katie and Eckart can be dangerous, as much, oh my god, and this is the truth that I like them and don't believe for a moment that they are doing this malicio
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Not everybody gets it right, eh. This description is actually quite the opposite of what Tolle has described in the teaching. Someone who is living in the present would actually be completely engaged with situation, person, activity, etc. A person "not" living in the moment would be disengaged ... living in their mind, past, future, etc. Out of the thousand or maybe millions reading Tol
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From chapter 10 of the Oprah/Tolle webinar...An audience member said: "So yes, as I was telling Oprah, it's been really exciting and enlightening to discuss in theory all the different concepts and ideas in the book. And it's been attainable here in this loving cocoon which I live in and my book club members live in. But once you go out into the real world and have real-life
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QuotecspI'm curious. What motivated you to read all his books and watch numerous CDs? I can't say much about Oprah, but I've seen, read and listened to enough of Tolle and others that have been around him that he does "walk the walk." Should he be a full-time hermit? I'm really not sure what people expect him to do or not do in terms of writing and/or public appea
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