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18 years ago
ajinajan
QuoteHey there Acid Reindeer, The Swedish video had been stuck at 89.1% availability for a while, but I've only just (minutes ago) managed to get the last bit of it downloaded. I'll see what I can do to get a copy to savefile.com. Else, I'll PM you with access details. Can't wait to get a translation of what's on the video. John Looks like after you get
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
I love what SANSAT said earlier: QuoteAgain, the personal attacks have no real value and do absolutely nothing to expose this group…simply follow-the-money. Several posters have provided very helpful information and links on this thread - use them. Follow the money Succinct and well put.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
QuoteAnd justchecking1234 seems to think the remark about Anticult and the stroke is a threat, when it is obvious that I was being sarcastic, and making fun of Anticult. It just doesn’t matter what we say. So RW Member admits above to using sarcasm and "making fun of Anticult", instead of providing any factual information to back up his claims, with any statistical data or actual doc
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
QuoteThese posts by "RW Member" and "Paprika" are very threatening, especially when you keep in mind the information from "Stop RW" that his girlfriend became "violent and mad" when he asked what would happen to RW when Michael dies. There is no way to predict anyone's future behavior, just as there is no way to be sure that RW supporters/members w
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
QuoteQuestion for hampton...After having been involved with landmark and you have had time to recall and analyze how you were manipulated and deceived during the course of the forum, how would you, now, go about persuading someone actively involved, to see what landmark really is? What have you learned that you can now use to save someone else another lost and sickening moment in the organization
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
This is very interesting: It's from QuoteEST Repair Rundown If you attended Erhard Seminar Training (EST) or Forum (one of its off-shoots), this rundown can repair any damage done by this off-beat activity. EST practices contained just enough truth, “borrowed” from Scientology processes, to get a case into restimulation — and then left it in that state without any means to repair it.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
QuoteI did the Forum in NJ and there were people who went up to the microphone who shared and were treated just as badly. I could not watch the entire set of videos, but I'msure they didn't portray how grueling the scheduling was. Though they said there were regular breaks, lunch and dinner, they didn't say the center was in a corporate park where there were no restaurants, stores
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
QuoteMR. PAISOLA POSTED MOST OF THE IMPACT TRAINIGNS "GRADUATION VIDEOS" ON GOOGLE VIDEO. SEE SOME OF THE LINKS BELOW: KINDA HARD TO BE "OBJECTIVE" WHEN YOU'RE SO CONNECTED WITH IMPACT TRAININGS DONT YOU THINK? Ohmigod, watching these videos, all the clapping, the crying, the language "commitment", "taking a stand in your life" th
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
Quotestop rw, What are you so afraid of? [...] You imply that you rejected your girlfriend, but it doesn’t take a psychologist to see how upset you are that your woman chose Royal Way over you. So it is understandable that you are misdirecting your anger toward Royal Way, rather than taking responsibility for your actions. [...] To stop rw and RW Member and others: I would suggest t
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
QuoteI am beginning to not a pattern here. First, both sides should stop the insults, RW members as well as RW critics. The name calling doesn't do anyone any good. I have edited out insults from an RW critic recently. The most recent post of RW man was left intact, even though it was laced with personal insults. But that is the last time. Remember that "flaming"
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
For the moment, it does not look like anyone is "seeding" a full copy of the Swedish Documentary on the torrents site. Once this happens, others will be able to get access to a complete copy of the Swedish video. French documentary
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
The civil suit filings are also very interesting. From the court records, it looks like this is an ongoing dispute, with an additional court date set for November 15, 2006 at 8:30am. Here is the text tabular output from the civil court filings: Case VCVVS038596 - NELSON -V- GOTTLIEB ETAL QuoteViewed Date Action Text Disposition 11/15/2006 8:30 AM DEPT. V9 MOTION RE: GOOD FAI
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18 years ago
ajinajan
Very interesting. Case 29315VSMG Defendant 2047890 GOTTLIEB, MICHAEL M Born in 1928, White hair, hazel eyes, 6 feet tall, weighs 240 pounds. And the violation was a recent as July 11, 2005! The "PI Motor Vehicle" usually means "Personal Injury", or a car accident involving one person only, and damage to the car and possibly some other structure, e.g. a telephone poll.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
According to a quick search on "MyFamily people finder", there is a "Michael M. Gottlieb" residing in California, who is 43 years old. This may or may not be the same "Michael" from the controversial Royal Way group. For a ten dollar fee, one could potentially find more information on the four individuals matching "Michael M. Gottlieb" in California fro
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
QuoteHad a very interesting chat. The CAIC people have seen an incredible amount of traffic from the Landmark video episode. Both to the video and also the transcript pages. The site has received traffic from the EFF site as well as Slashdot, but the standout is the veritable flood that has continued to come from boingboing. (silly site name, but very effective) The video page has been vi
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18 years ago
ajinajan
QuoteI watched the French Landmark documentary, and I now feel sick to my stomach. Viewing the Forum from someone else's perspective gave me an objective view which I lacked when I was a participant. When I was involved with Landmark, I was so thoroughly seduced and caught up in the moment, I didn't realize the extent of the mind control that was taking place. I now feel gullible, manip
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18 years ago
ajinajan
Art Schreiber, General Counsel, Erhard Seminars Training, personal attorney of Werner Erhard, President, General Counsel & Initial Agent, Werner Erhard and Associates,General Counsel & Chairman of the Board of Landmark Education responded: Landmark Fires Back at EFF QuoteLandmark Fires Back at EFF Organization says its subpoena of Google and YouTube is self-protection, not
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18 years ago
ajinajan
Landmark disputes EFF charges Quotep2pnet.net News:- A claim by the EFF that a Landmark Education copyright claim is bogus and stifles free speech online is, "entirely inaccurate," says Landmark in an email to p2pnet. In a bid to suppress an investigative television documentary critical of its methods, Landmark subpoenaed the Internet Archive, Google Video, and YouTube seeking th
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18 years ago
ajinajan
Looks like the video is now gone from the Daily Motion site. Still pickin up speed at the torrent anyone have further info on how/why it's gone from Daily Motion? Did Art Schreiber make the same chilling effect free speech legal threats and intimidation to Daily Motion that he did to get it taken off Google, YouTube, and Internet Archive? this site will probably have updates
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
QuoteLandmark has made a horrendous error in judgement, due to their arrogance and ignorance, and apparently their incompetent lawyering! Also, the internet community hate it when people try to censor things, especially when an "offshoot of the Scientology cult" tries to do it. This is a perfect storm, in terms of abuse of the DMCA, video uploading, and censorship, and abusive att
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
Mark Kamin is paying for a google ad that runs next to searches about it, attempting to denigrate Rick Ross, (again ironically, claiming somehow that Rick Ross himself is responsible for all these posts about him over here) QuoteOctober 23, 2006 Response to Comment on RickRoss.com Rick Ross recently posted a comment on his website about me, so that it shows up in searches about me. I a
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18 years ago
ajinajan
"naterosenberg", recently posted this video of Mark Kamin talking about "Sterling Bank", to YouTube: Hear words like "authenticity", and "integrity", exact same stuff he must have learned from using EST Werner Erhard jargon and Landmark Education stuff... oh yeah, and on a related note: Turn up, tune in, transform? A Harvard Forum For
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18 years ago
ajinajan
Looks like Tom has found more Scientology-friendly business partners: QuoteNEW YORK, Nov 2 (Reuters) - U.S. movie superstar Tom Cruise and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. are resurrecting United Artists, the movie studio founded more than 80 years ago by screen legends including Charlie Chaplin and Mary Pickford, MGM said on Thursday. Cruise will star in and produce films for the studio,
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18 years ago
ajinajan
this from SLASHDOT: QuoteAn offshoot of the Scientology cult known as The Landmark Forum is using the DMCA against YouTube, Google and The Internet Archive because of a scathing French documentary about Landmark being shared on those sites. It aired in France to 1.5 million people, a month later Landmark pulled out of France. Story at the EFF's site and other news sources. The video
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
it's mentioned on yet another site : Landmark Forum Violates Constitution and Federal Law by Trying to Chill Speech PressZoom.com
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18 years ago
ajinajan
Quotethe Landmarkian employee who posts at Wikipedia "Sm1969" is still at it. He is deliberately spreading more false information on Wikipedia, stating that Landmark holds copyright over the video, which is not true. Watching how Landmark operates, and all of the dishonesty being carried out in an organized fashion around this video, reveals the true nature of the Landmar
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
Here's another article : Hopefully this will make it to more and more media outlets... previously mentioned articles included and and and the EFF site
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18 years ago
ajinajan
In addition to and looks like the news of the Landmark 'bogus copyright claim' , is also being carried by
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
From a post at QuoteHere is an interesting video : Mind Control Made Easy, or How to Become a Cult Leader note the similarities between all of our favorite groups and leaders......... enjoy! Here's the link, out of the quotes:
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ajinajan
Art Schreiber, at one time (and perhaps still) Werner Erhard's personal attorney, General Counsel of Erhard Seminars Training, President, General Counsel and Initial Agent of Werner Erhard and Associates, and General Counsel and Chairman of the Board of Landmark Education. And the current reincarnation of this organization claims to be different from the original? It will be interesting
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