Hi kickedinthehead, With regards to some of the reasons you have suggested for continuing with your enrolment: Payment is already made: - Landmark have a full refund policy. You will get your money back and depending on your country of origin you may be protected by law. Building your confidence - Landmark people tend to have a confidence facade but the incongruences of their former belie
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Polly - here is what I believe may be the source book for the course: From the wesite: "New Jersey author, metaphysician, psychologist, and empowerment guru Bruce Schneider, Ph.D. "It , asks deep philosophical questions concerning the nature of your work versus the nature of you, because only when our life's work truly reflects our purpose and our passion can we relax, ref
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Denver latter got into the Excellerated learning Institute and Money and You LGAT,(a derivative of Est/landmark) of Robert Kiyosaki fame back in the early 1990's.
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Mrs. Schucman, a Columbia University professor and psychologist, was an acquaintance of Fr. Benedict J. Groeschel, C.F.R. (seen on EWTN). Fr. Groeschel gave a eulogy at her funeral. Fr. Groeschel wrote (2), "This woman who had written so eloquently that suffering really did not exist spent the last two years of her life in the blackest psychotic depression I have ever witnessed."
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Try this for a start There are similarities in philosophy to Landmark I recall but its model of delivery is different. I also recall threads on this board from back in 2003 on a Course In Miracles.
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Hi Polly, Do you know what the name of this retreat is, where the source material comes from or who's teachings it is? Is your parish priest aware of this "retreat"? There are some dangerous "end times" groups out there trying to form little remnants based on apparitions and messages. Beware! Oz
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lanajae, The following links may help you. The 1st one is an analysis of the the agreements signed at Landmark. Personal Info – Landmark Agreements This thread has a series of related threads on landmark and children Teenagers and children participating in the Forum This thread is about another child LGAT originating from Lifespring and has links to a parents long hard fight Te
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lanajae, Can you get the police involved? Can you talk with these children and tell them how bad Landmark is and that they need to go to the police as they are being coerced. Don't wait to find precedents - Look up the Landmark site and see the details of Landmark for Teens. Sometimes we are concerned about disturbing the equilibrium of a family and wonder about what is right to do.
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MDIMan, You quoted the mission statement: "The Purpose of Men's Divisions International To inspire every man to be the man he has always wanted to be, so that his love of humanity will drive him to leave a legacy that assures the success of future generations" Where is the love of humanity in your accusations? Oz
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To Savernake and All, Don't kid yourself that the USA is alone in this SHAM. Australian's consume this nonsense too, in a big way. All the LGAT's and spin doctors you mention have bases here, from Depak to John Gray, Dr Phil, Landmark, CO$ etc etc etc... All this stuff thrives here as it benefits from our egaliterian cultural makeup and a bouyant economy with tougher defaming
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The following link is to a Christian Fundamentalist evangelist from the USA who uses comic strips as his tool of conversion trade. This guy distorts the truth of the mainstream christian churches, especially Catholisism, with a vengence and vendeta. His version of Christianity and its history is "comical" :lol: Would the group you are trying to research have used this material
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To All, Jane and I are back together. :) It has taken 22 months. It took patience and a change in me to enable this to happen. Justice is no good without mercy. No matter how much it hurts, LE or other cult participants are innocent and loved ones need to die to self a bit in order to help. I write this coming from experience and also out of my own need to share with you that it
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Hi Valerie & Corboy, There is a step before the first point of Corboy's: "*You can avoid adding the numbers--block at the very beginning. Thats where someone simply refuses to look at the evidence." This point above suggests an active response to the problem by the person. I believe their can also be a passive response: ie: * You can avoid adding the numbers because
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I wonder if this group is violating any laws as regards to how human remains are to be cared for after death and prior to burial? I imagine there are state licences required to prepare a body for burial and this 72 hour vigil at the side of a rotting corpse at the very least is outside of standard practice from that of a funeral palour. I'd do some checking and get the police on to this t
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Hi Laura, I am writing from Australia and have been following your case. There was a missing person found in Australia last week who had been involved in a self empowerment cult called Kenja and this made me think of your situation and possibly other areas for you to look. I will convey the story below first and then share my thoughts. In the last week here, a 39 year old woman called Co
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I would like to thank all people who have written to me privately and those whom have sent their best wishes on this thread. I am glad that I have been of some help to people. I will return when rested. My whole career has now changed to help people in abusive organisational relationships. May the joy of the season fill your hearts and I hope that 2005 will be a better year for us all.
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To Rick, Corboy and All who have Helped Me, It is time for me to take a break from the board. I stumbled across this site in late October 2003. It was a Godsend to me as it not only helped to piece together my own LGAT experience some 13 years ago, (I was in denial all that time), BUT, more importantly, this board educated me and equiped me to assist the love of my life, (I call her Jane he
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Hi Cruisader, You have raised some interesting points that can be viewed from both the big picture and selectively. I am not aware of how much you have read up on the Landmark techniques. These techniques, (the process they use rather than the Technology imparted), are both psychological and hypnotic. This is why so much of the philosophy and "Tech" sticks. I can see that you h
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Hi JF and welcome, Together with Montreal's questions, I have a few: 1. What do you remember from the Fear Exercise on Saturday Night in the Forum; 2. Did you get the feeling of euthoria and what did you put this feeling down to? 3. What is the meaning of life in 50 words or less? Take care, Oz
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Cruisader, Your idea is a good one. This site I think is one of the biggest for people to discuss Landmark. I see three issues that need to be addressed: * Resources to maintain the database; * Legal issues must be investigated; * Sabotage. There are private yahoo groups for pro Landmarkians around the web. There are a number of anti-cult / anti landmark sites around. Some were
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Speranza - I empathise with your plight totally. * Stay physically healthy and surround yourself with people who have good humour * Study up * Be there for her * Pass her information when she says she wants it * if your beliefs support the practice of prayer - pray. The time will come when she will be exhausted and will want out. You can intervene before hand as I did but you run the risk
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Crusader, Good idea. Who will maintain it. Acid Reindeer also suggested something similar a few months ago. asking for help for a page on Landmark I would add the field: Relationships Distroyed #: Relationship type: Marital, defacto, b/f, g/f, siblings, parent, friend. Oz
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Hi Woofish, It is regrettible that profound experiences can be engineered. If for instance, prior to Landmark, lets say you fell in love. The act of falling in love was mutual and uncontrived. Their is a sense of honesty between you and your loved one. It is just the two of you. Now, lets look at the "being with" exercise of the Landmark Advanced Course. You are encouraged to s
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Hi Cousin2004, I admire your determination and shear grit, willing to get your hands dirty. I don't know if you are being literal or symbolic as to getting LE to fully disclose on the agreement form and to accept that their courses are dangerous. Landmark know their courses are dangerous. They are not in the business of causing breakthroughs in peoples lives but are in business to m
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Templar - An excellent piece of prose. Your contribution is benefical to us all, those recovering, loved ones and the like. Intelligence and compassion are hard to pass by when met. Oz
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In reference to Cousin2004's story: Quotepatrick-darcyi would like to know if u can furnish us one little bit of information on your family member. did this person fight the brainwash of landmark. it seems that people who have breakdowns are many times the ones that are not as suceptible to landmarks tactics, which is very few people. this could be relavant. maybe u could ask som
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Hi Patrick, Yes I agree shall I link this to the other thread and answer there. Psychotic Breaks: Oz.
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Montreal - good work. The Rev Dean Simpson refers to the 5 day Clergy Landmark course called: "Making a difference: A Course for Those Who Minister." The poor man can't see the conflict in his Christian theology and Landmark Philosophy. Christain Theology = All good things come from God, (the only source), who is the creator. Landmark Philosophy = I create all possibili
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Hi Sonnie_dee, What you write about Landmark infiltrating schools is correct. Landmark has infiltrated a private Catholic School on the North Shore of Sydney and this commenced 5 years ago. I don't know how it happened, either through teachers or parents but I do understand that a legal guardian must have done The Forum before accepting children in Forum for Young People and Forum for Tee
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Hi Cousin2004, I too am sorry to hear your story, a story allot of us here relate to so well. Landmark and other LGATs do need to be stopped. You have requested the Austrlian 60 Minutes contact details so here they are including the relivent thread from here: Kathryn Bonella - 60 Minutes Producer Sydney, Australia Phone: +61 2 9438-3433 email: kbonell
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