I watched the videos before the were deleted. The treatment of humanity under the guise of personal growth is truly sad to me. Is not the removal of these under "pressure" a form of censorship?
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QuoteAttune"]A lot of what I read about MKP and the weekend is not accurate and there are many out right lies. I see men here who obviously have no integrity and confidentiality means nothing. What have you seen that are "outright" lies? Point these instances out to us. The FACT that most of us have read the NWTA weekend protocol handbook, and that we are basing our belie
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My following explanations about my MKP experience ARE emotional in many many places. I think that is the only way you will be able to understand my anger and pain and disgust in regards to MKP. Disgust, because of the positive claims they make, claims that I feel are worthy goals for a person to have in their lives, which have obviously IMO been twisted and are the complete opposite of my experie
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QuoteI_have_somthing_to_sayI Have been a big part of mkp for 6 years now and I too have never been pressured to do anything I did not want to. All anyone ever has to say is NO. I have read this thread from start to finish and I see a man who wants to grow but his mom and dad will not let him. I have heard this mother say over and over that poeple keep talking to her son about doing this weekend.
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Quotewhat2dojr144, you need to stay out of the sweat lodges. I think too much of this activity has fried your brain. If I read your posts correctly, and that is hard to do with the ramblings, you have drifted from group to group. If that is the case, maybe you need to stop looking for a group to fulfull you, and tell you how you should feel. Just try standing on your own 2 feet, w/o any group,
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QuoteAlso... I just wanted to ask those of you who have this intense fear of MKP and their work... why? So people are doing something different with their lives. If it works for them and they are happy then so be it. It is not for everyone and it does not purport to be. I just can't believe in the time that people invest in something that they have not experienced themselves. You are righ
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Quote6. PERFECT YOUR PERSONAL FOUNDATION.WHEN BOUNDARIES ARE STRONG AND STANDARDS ARE HIGH, PROBLEMS DISAPPEAR. Actually the higher a persons standards are in regards to others actions, thoughts etc, the more likely you are to have problems with people. If you lower your standards of what you believe people should be like, and have tolerance of others actions and thoughts, you will have less p
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Quote3. ELIMINATE TOLERATIONS IN ALL THEIR FORMS. TOLERATIONS ARE THE BREEDING GROUND OF PROBLEMS. Sorry, just have to say, TOLERANCE towards others in this world is what we need more of, not less of. The Christian Crusades were because of peoples inability for tolerance. Hitlers genocide was because of intolerance. American Indians were almost destroyed because of intolerance. I could kee
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Quotewhat2doCould someone give me their opinion, or feedback on my previous post? He came home last nite from his AA meeting really angry at us. Said someone told him they could not believe we would not pay for him to go to NWTA. He believes if he goes, he can stop all therapy, and all meds. He was told by several men it will change his life completely, and he will not need that "stuff"
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Quotemidonov123I can tell you a little bit about the Shrodinger cat to illustrate QM. To support my view, let me only mention that I am a Ph.D. in physics (not kidding). So imagine a that a cat ... (yes!, a live cat "animal") is put inside a box together with a mechanism that includes a radioactive atom and a poisonous vial that will kill the cat if broken. The vial will be broke
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QuotenutrinoWhat this means is that real quantum physics and new age "quantum" philosophies have a miniscule amount of common ground. Real quantum physics is extremely math heavy.... New Age quantum crapola has no math.... nothing about it can be proved because nothing about it can be disproved... it is often used as an excuse for having no decent logic... the reasoning going like &q
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QuotermeoAs of last night i required to attend the "Life Success Seminar" in Cincinnati ohio. Fourtunatly for me I live in town. My reason for going was that is was a requirement to attend for my new job, which I love by the way. As good as my new bosses intentions are for going to this seminar it didnt take me to long to begin to feel quite awkward with a full sense of scepticism
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QuotenutrinoWooooooweeee.... which of these "physics" based teachings could identify.... ohhhhh... Erwin Schrodinger.... who has said, relatively recently: "Let me say at the outset, that in this discourse, I am opposing not a few special statements of quantum mechanics held today (1950s), I am opposing as it were the whole of it, I am opposing its basic views that have been
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I keep reading the following trying to understand what they are "meaning", and I am not. Does anyone here understand physics? I have searched and searched university sites and googled trying to understand their statement of: "We now know scientifically that all matter is light energy and that the differences in the matter we experience are the result of light energy vibrating
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Free speech and the right to state your mind, is that not what we are "supposed" to be about in America, at least in part? (As well as certain other countries) Is Edward Fadeley, a retired Oregon judge advocating free speech being censored? I don't know, if I only take what I have read into account (as I do not know this judge), then that is how his "speech" sounds.
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I am reading a book called "Cults in our Midst" by Margaret Singer. So far I am learing a lot. I would suggest this book to anyone who would like to learn more about what is happening in their lives. It has a section on LGATs as well as info about the dynamics of cults. So far what I am reading puts MKP right smak dab in the middle of LGATs and cult type groups. I find it i
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QuoteBrad69Ginah, your post is SCARY. But let's take it beyond children. Why should the potential for death or injury exist for anyone on any course? Surely, the life of any individual, whether a child or an adult, is sacred, and no risk involving the potential loss of a life should be considered worth taking. That is sick! <Why should the potential for death or injury ex
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QuoteandycheeSome guys at a meeting told me about the new warriors and said I should join up. I was thinking about it but wanted to find out because they were sort of strange guys and wouldn't tell mee to much about what went on. Anyway it was at an aa meeting. I wouldn't go now anyway because it isn't Christain and I am and some people wrote that they run around naked in the woo
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A true “brother”, would never ask someone he “loved” to keep secrets from the person that is their life partner. A true “brother” would encourage a man to be honest with his life partner. A true “brother” would never ask of his “brother” to share intimacies with him that should only be shared between a couple. A true “brother” would never ask his “brother” to become involved with a
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Self-help for women? It’s a scream A weekend in the country getting in touch with her inner woman didn’t sound scary, but when Genevieve Fox heard the group wail, it was time to run “You’re on the bitches’ team,” said a woman wearing a pink T-shirt and matching bandana, as she handed me my name badge (I’d given a false name). “We’ll take you to your bedroom.” I was shown up to my six-bed
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I found this site (or someone mentioned it), and I have been reading and studying the site. IMO this is a good site. After I read some on the site I realized I was making all the wrong mistakes with my husband. After "following" their suggestions, it started helping the communication between my husband and I. I feel that those of us "fighting" for our loved ones can use a
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Quotenutrino It isn't all that important what any social phenomonon is labelled, whether it be a "LGAT", a "cult", a "multi level marketing operation" ... the crucial thing to watch is how it affects the emotional and intellectual texture of the participants. I completely agree with this statement. I do have experience with an LGAT that works with young adul
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I don't remember where I found this but, I feel in my gut that its right on with mkp. Most of this speaks of my life post mkp. When/if I post my story, you will see how. Social disruption, isolation and pressure. This implies that there is a current social structure that is being disrupted. Along with an individual which is going against the structure and ones still involved in the stru
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QuoteWitness ...after seeing that one guy become mentally broken/possibly suicidal... Quotetwilla1 Witness, you have no way of knowing that man's state of mind. Depending on how much of the weekend you went through, you learned about judgement vs data - this is judgement. IMHO, I admit that if he had "heard" of the situation, it would be "judgment". The fact
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QuotefeldsparI found this link somewhat interesting. I as well, I will definitely have to reread this more slowly and think about it. Thank you for the info.
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Quotetwillia1My point has always been that we as human beings have a lot of control over what we get out of our experiences. Yes, we do have “some” control over what we get out of our experiences. But, when something enters your life that is painful or damaging, what you learn from it is not always positive. MKP has been damaging and painful to my family, what should I get out of this that wo
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QuoteAnidawehiHi, all. I confused about something and thought you all might be able to give me some feedback. I won't share my gut feelings on this one and instead wait to hear your opinions. As mentioned before, my hubby was recruited by a close family member. This family member is very entrenched with mkp and has been touting its "pot of gold" and "gifts" to its
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I have been keeping up with this site and reading the yahoo groups as well. I was interested in the idea of girlfriends/significant others of MKPers joining the discussions here. I would like to hear first hand from them about their experiences and feelings in regards to their spouses being involved with MKP. I am requesting that MKP persons request their significant others to join these group
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I found this on one of the yahoo groups that Ivy was talking about. I find the "toilet seat" one interesting as some MKPers have stated that it is "just an example". The following Guys rules, show no respect for women, and in fact, just the opposite. Many of these show no movement towards healthy relationships, and in fact, show movement towards moving women to being "
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Quoteamr123Five years ago I began seeing a therapist (who specializes in gay and lesbian issues) about self esteem and self acceptance issues. She immediately began pushing the New Warriors group. In subsequent sessions she really stepped up the pressure until I finally relented and went to the local group's informational meeting. Even though it appeared to be a cookout, I was extremely
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