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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
Hi facet We may be conceptualising "trusting the gut" differently, but - if you do read the book - let me know if you would agree with that. The book explains that LGATs manipulate by getting participants to not trust their rational minds (referred to by others as "logic", "evidence-based analysis", "the central route", "System 2" etc.), and to
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
A message for "members" of www.culteducation.com (This is what I believe is the best way to expose these organisations):
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
Hi corboy I agree with your sentiments, but I would characterise any occasion where people outsource their thinking as intuitive, and potentially dangerous. Since the "logic" used by LGAT trainers is clearly illogical, the solution - as I explain in the book - is not to "trust your gut" (although this can initially alert you that something is wrong), but to fully trust your
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
"PLANTS" in LGATs (kdag commented on this earlier and Lifton would class this under thought reform condition 2 of 8... "Mystical Manipulation"): From page 232 of my PhD: Mystical Manipulation refers to events which take place in the environment that may seem spontaneous, but are actually orchestrated by the group (Lifton, 1961). Lifton states that those controlling t
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
Link to my PhD, for those who want the detail:
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
THIS ALSO EXPLAINS HOW ATTRIBUTION (AND INDEPENDENT THINKING) IS UNDERMINED IN LGATS (pp. 283-286 of my PhD): Thought reform condition 7 of 8: Doctrine over Person Doctrine over Person, according to Lifton (1961), refers to the way that the interrogator processes the experiences of prisoners through the philosophy of the environment. Participants in LGATs are pressurised into revealing the
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
Dismantling the ATTRIBUTION process Hi facet You're very right. LGAT trainers, while telling participants that they are helping them to think independently, dismantle the attribution process (which allows people to make sense of "why" a person may have behaved in a particular way). From page 247 of my thesis: It should be noted that, while reinterpretation (framing negat
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
“Every portrait that is painted with feeling is a portrait of the artist, not of the sitter. The sitter is merely the accident, the occasion. It is not he who is revealed by the painter; it is rather the painter who, on the coloured canvas, reveals himself.” - Oscar Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
Since Erhard's daughter, Debbie Rosenberg, claimed that Erhard had raped her sister, and that Erhard - when Debbie confronted him - had said it was a "nurturing experience" for her sister (see 60 minutes 1991... at 15:36... ), it is useful to consider this passage from 'The Book of est' (originally published in 1976). It should be noted that Erhard personally endorsed thi
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
Thank you for speaking up! Keep sharing your stories and be bold. I for one am sick of being afraid. I would rather die than live in fear of these abusive people any longer. Have a look around YouTube and see which videos get the most views and likes. The good people in this world FAR OUTWEIGH the bad. Speak the truth and the truth will set you free ;)
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
If Satan is the accuser and the master of lies, then - if God does exist - then LGATs (and Erhard) would be the perfect example of this reality on Earth. A man who generates guilt, shame, inadequacy, and fear, while convincing good people that he's their saviour? A man whose own home is a mess (rape, molestation, multiple divorces, abandoning his children), yet he preaches to others, who are
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
15 And when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, and the children crying in the temple, and saying, Hosanna to the son of David; they were sore displeased, 16 And said unto him, Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus saith unto them, Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
No problem (well... LOL) Make sure you download everything so that there are copies. We know how these people operate.
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
“There’s something about the fact that he’s still out there doing all of this, and people still believe in him. This man still gets people sitting in an audience, looking up at him… believing that what he says is just so wonderful...” – Dawn Damas (1991) YouTube Link: DropBox link (if YouTube is intimidated into removing it…): For an organisation that preaches freedom, they spen
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
Was reading Isaiah this morning and noticed verse 1:11,as well as some interesting other things. Chapter 2 has some interesting stuff about the house of Jacob and Lebanon (Maybe check out J.S. Ondara's song Lebanon. He's sort of like a male Tracy Chapman. His album... Tales of America... has some great songs. I'd listen to God Bless America... and maybe also check out the revised a
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
HERE ARE ALL OF THE USEFUL LINKS: 1. The Fight Club call to action (Killing in the Name...): 2. The 30-minute undercover footage "documentary": 3. The book (2020): 4. Dr James Doty of Stanford University blatantly lying about est/Landmark/LGATs: In it he states (starting at about 06:54): “And if you’ve followed… est… if you’ve seen the power of the Lan
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
Thanks facet I really appreciate the advice, and have put a warning on the 30-minute video. This one is much shorter, and gets the message across in an interesting way Fox has given the go-ahead for me to use clips from Fight Club, and I think you'll agree... if you listen to the lyrics... that it's perfectly suited to both these abusive seminars, and to the current protests a
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
Hi StopLGATs The only thing that will stop these things from happening is that people become informed about them, which is now easy to do. Explaining the complexity of this manipulation is challenging (although my PhD and book do this), but that footage speaks for itself and you can share it. My book will find its way around, and anyone who reads it will be able to see through the manipula
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
I hope that this does not break any of the site's rules. This is not about self-promotion... I experienced an LGAT in 2010 and, after spending years trying to get academics and the mental health community to address the manipulation and abuse which occurs in LGATs (without success), I returned to university to study psychology. My PhD is an examination of the sophisticated manipulation which
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3 years ago
John Hunter PhD
Fox has reviewed my fair use appeal on another (much shorter) video, and allowed me to use footage from Fight Club to comment on the way that participants must agree to not talk about LGATs. Hopefully YouTube unblocks this video soon:
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