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5 years ago
bakkagirl
I just listened to Werner's "In the Heart of the Matter" And, achieved a state of 'oneness' and 'bliss' that no other experience has afforded. Based on this experience, alone, I wish to honor our leader!!! Let's go, as they say. corboy wrote: More ideas.. Aids to devotion..sacramentals Holy medals Absolutely -- can we digitally print
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
Since W.E. has been declared the primal spiritual force informing my, and many other fields, a near God-like figure... I think we need to hallow his life, blessedly ongoing, with a calendar of his achievements, as in: On this day, anno domini... or maybe is should be Werner domini, our hero: "changed his name to avoid detection by the wife and children he abandoned", etc, et
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
Well, the focus will be on the 'celebrities' and how they or their spawn were lured into this pernicious CULT. kdag was right on in copying in, here, the 90 entities this CULT spun off. These are more interesting than the personalities involved.
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
"Conversations on Compassion" Werner Erhard Byron Katie Dalai Lama
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
Loving this trialogue, Will say I am a minor expert on what is wrong with the Catholic Church, and I did not have to be systematically dehydrated to "get it", But, I get what you are both saying...and, I wasn't jumping on you kdag... I have to say that talking to so many folks via CEI has made me much more sensitive to milieu control, temperature, hydration, language, what
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
Dave Barry shares the many 'peaks' he experienced during a 12-hour Tony Robbins(TM) LGAT:
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
Wet/dry, cold/hot, medicated/unmedicated, screened/unscreened, LGAT's should be avoided like the plague!
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
kdag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here's a thought about the inaction of the > therapeutic community, and I think it has been > brought up previously on the boards: > Since these organizations are NOT comprised of > professionals, and they have no license, they > would not be under the jurisdiction of the APA. > Maybe they, (t
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
A persistent theme I have noted in posts on this board is the frustration people have encountered when they brought LGAT abuses to the attention of members of their larger communities. Responses have seemed to run on a spectrum from "you are crazy", to disbelief that an organization would behave this way, to rationalizations of one kind or another. I would assume that people injured
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
corboy, I have rethought my response. Given the number of LGAT's operating in the U.S. and the consistency of their approach, which seems to include the use of a standard set of hooks, the use of the name 'Harvard', or other tone'y university studies, the use of the APA's brand, I am thinking that the cited authorities could be in collusion with the culties. Rep
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
Blaidd wrote: Its hard to give the full breakdown of how this type of LGAT is so dangerous. the brainwashing is so subtle its hard to even see, and they are giving people what they really want, well.... People want to think they are powerful, that they are special, that they are loved, that if they really try they can do anything. Choice fills this hole if your willing to follow their rules an
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
Addendum to previous post: "An eminent US psychologist and retired CEO of the American Psychological Association, in an independent report (PDF), which reflected his personal opinion, stated:" The APA is managed by a "President", not a "CEO".
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
5 years ago
bakkagirl
See my comments in RED. Considering participating in any personal development program can bring up a lot of questions. Landmark, which is recognized as one of the top leadership and development training program providers in the world, BY WHOM?has been observed by dozens and dozens STOOPIDof top international experts who confirm the scope, safety and effectiveness of Landmark’s program. Th
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
From the ChoiceCenter website: Since 1998, ChoiceCenter has offered adult and teen personal development and leadership courses using experiential learning to elevate Emotional Intelligence (EQ) – the single biggest factor in determining success in life. Ask yourself, if you could have the relationships, career, family, body, and lifestyle of your dreams, what would that experience look and
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
Going back to the representations regarding the nature of these "discussions", i.e., they are: "designed to support people in being more effective in realising their own personal and societal goals. Through a series of philosophically rigorous and open discussions, voluntary sharing of your experience and short exercises, the Programme provides an opportunity to explore basic qu
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
kdag quoted: "Believing. Too many clients have had their experiences invalidated because the therapist didn’t want to believe that human beings could do such terrible things to one another; thus, the therapist saw the clients as paranoid or exaggerating." I imagine that in their reluctance to believe client reports of LGAT abuses some therapist may be motivated by more than cogni
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
whether these are or are not "discussions" (as most people, including therapists, understand that term, needs to be the subject of legal review.
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
It is a "Catch 22", in that people who not trained to deliver psycho-therapeutic interventions are also tasked with evaluating the mental fitness of individuals to participate in what re-categorized as a "rigorous philosophical investigation of blah, blah, blah." The mental health community should have been all over this a long time ago. One has to wonder...
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
You are just "running a racket", enough of your excuses about toilet needs, you weak-willed, weak-bladdered worthless piece of garbage!!!
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
I think that "Fight Club" was the ultimate paean to Landmarkistan, but, I will do my best to contribute to this comedic romp. Am also thinking that "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" contains many references to the downside of utopian visions, and the ugliness they elicit in participants. Think one blogger is doing a series on the "Wisdom of Keith Raniere" rig
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
Well, this would follow because in Landmarkistan people are granted special powers that they have not, in reality, worked for. Work for something and you care about it, which to protect the integrity of it. Magical powers are different. These come down from on-high, are channeled by the guru of the day.
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
Will do, Captain Kdag! I am pretty sure it IS another country, let's have some fun and map the terrain. I see a WALL OF DELUSION, and a waterfall made of FAKE empathy. Back with more later.
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
Well, one thing I have noticed is that the people who seemed to have abandoned their moral framework, or the moral framework most of us adhere to, believe they are pursuing virtuous ends. Frequently, these ends are utopian and unattainable, but these ends justify their means. A common behavior I have seen is the substitution of lofty, unattainable goals for common sense solutions to wha
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
Well, yes, to all of that corboy. I have stuck is out in the coaching world, a) because I really enjoyed the work and thought I was delivering value to my clients, but, b) because I could not really believe some of the things I was seeing. I could not believe that other coaches had no issue in exploiting their clients, and exploiting the field. I could NOT get this through my head. The
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
I would think of Landmark as a control grid, with a sort of invisible hierarchy. This is exactly what I 'see' in many so-called flat organizational structures. I would also imagine that the so-called 'coaching culture' that many organizations now aspire to create is a Landmark structure. Rather than having external systems of control, and conventional performance ma
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
I would place this more in the category of the Russian comedians who 'punked' John McCain, Maxine Waters and others with calls from the Kremlin. This stuff is so over the top, I can see the comedic value in it, though there is an element of maliciousness. What this suggests to me, though, is that "collateral" could take the form of the knowledge that one has been embarra
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
It resembles public education, which is no longer about learning but learning how to get along with others, IMHO.
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5 years ago
bakkagirl
I have been thinking about this a LOT, and have concluded that for me, and most folks working in executive and organisational development, coaching was a tool. I saw coaching, delivered by managers, delivered by external coaches as a means of developing leadership and other skills. I now think that for other people, coaching is an end goal. The medium is the message, if you will. I say
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