Just because someone is a "Dr" does not mean that they are either ethical, or not foolish. My sister is an MD and she is so naive its a joke. Many Dr's are naive, some are dishonest, all of them are HUMAN just like us. No difference at all. There are countless Dr's and other professionals in all sorts of cults, etc. If i were you i would RUN from that Dr. If you have PT
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By the way, the dishonest charge that someone like myself is a type of Anti-True Believer is an abject falsehood. The reality is the exact opposite. I freed myself from the New Thought prison, and a few other mental prisons, by FOLLOWING THE EVIDENCE, and exercising Critical Thinking. By stopping "Believing" things, and carefully looking for facts. If there was proof that the Ne
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Do NOT under any circumstance do what this doctor tells you. You feelings are correct, you are being PREYED upon. If they get you in that Scientology building, then they will start their dangerous Mind Control work on you, and could literally wreck your life. I am not exaggerating. If it were me i would report this Dr to the local authorities for doctors, and even go to the media anonymousl
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Well, I am not going to waste to any more time with Timmer, as its obvious this person has zero interest in objective facts, and just in propagating the irrational New Thought dogma. I will just be blunt. What is it with the bullcrap about Myrtle Fillmore? Who cares? That is some ridiculous story written as a testimonial going back what, over a hundred years? Get real. First, where are t
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Unity is so decentralized, that many of the problems are LOCAL. Like the local Unity Church where the Minister was having sex with many women. Because he stacked the board, they could not get rid of him. The Catholics were much worse, so don't get me started on those guys. But the larger Unity organization is not much better. Where are the FACTS to support their outrageous claims? Th
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There is no evidence that "channeling" is anything other than Imagination, Creative Writing, a confidence trick to make money, or even mental illness and "hearing voices". As far as ACIM, the post by Timmer is spreading yet MORE deliberate distortions of the facts. Perhaps its True Believer Syndrome at work, As far as MONEY, the Foundation For Inner Peace has made
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This is a good article which show what can happen with this crackpot stuff. Personality Cult, sex abuse, "alternative health care", money, brainwashing, New Age beliefs, etc. "He told them that humans are their own gods, capable of "godlife," as he called it, and are creators of every moment of their existence." NOTE: Humans are not God. They are All Too Human
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Its not my opinion. There are ZERO objective facts to back up CS. Just anecdotes. What guys like you refuse to understand is that there are VULNERABLE PEOPLE who actually BELIEVE that horseshit they are fed. Of course people should go to doctors. But some don't because they have been "brainwashed". There are horror stories of parents keeping thier kids from doctors and the kids
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I have never seen such a bunch of NewThought DoubleSpeak since dealing with a Landmarkian! So people can achieve/unfold the "Powers of Christ", eh? Says who? Its a delusion of Grandiousity, and even as an Atheist i realize it is blasphemy. It narcissism incarnate. Men are not Gods, they are HUMANS. The Fillmore's made CLAIMS to sell their religion. No evidence, just claims
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The facts are very simple. In order to PROVE a type of health practice works, you need to TEST it properly, in double-blind placebo controlled tests. People like Christian Science REFUSE these tests, as they know damn well it will show IT DOES NOT WORK. There have been studies of CS people showing they die SOONER than the general public! As far as the body, MOST HUMAN ILLNESSES HEAL BY
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Yes, a nice tactic of diversion. Too bad there is no proof of damage i am aware of from using CT. Too bad CT is about realistic thinking, and thinking for yourself. Too bad there are hundreds of independent scientific placebo controlled studies showing CT works for up to 70-80% of people. But to some people FACTS are the enemy of Belief, so the facts must be ignored. Coz Quoterrmo
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Yes, we all know who is being hunted here... ;-) Cognitive Therapy is not a "cult" in the least. First off, there are many different types of CT. Its an evidence based type of therapy that many people have found helpful, but it is NOT for everyone. It has been shown in HUNDREDS of controlled scientific studies to be about as effective as drugs in the treatment of various emotion
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Lets get real and call a spade a spade. Eddy flat out lied many times about how she created CS. A lie of omission and lies of commision are still lies. Eddy is a proven liar. She flat out lied many many times. Also, CS is NOT "sound" in any way. Denying the germ theory of disease is not sound. Its totally nutty and very dangerous. Also, they FORBID you from going to a doctor.
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Here is a good article about these scammers. Mannatech Sued for Fraud and Invasion of Privacy Mannatech, several of its officers, and a chiropractor who was a major distributor are being sued by the mother of a child who died of Tay-Sachs disease whose photograph has been used to promote Mannatech products. According to the complaint: Mannatech distributors circulated a nude pictu
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Hi Frogs, thx for sharing your story. I am sorry about what happened with your mother. CS is a very destructive religion, and to me it is a cult. I was involved myself for a short while long ago, so i know how persuasive MBE can be. (i tried almost all these nutty things!) I think it is a GREAT idea to stay far away from the New Age, New Thought, Mind Healing, Supernatural, yadda yadda Vo
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It appears that Calvary Community Church in Phoenix, AZ is behind the ChristianWay.org website. It appears to be a fundamentalist bible-belt type of church. There also seems to be some type of controversy over "Rick Warren" but i do not have the time to look into it. Just be aware that these types of fundamentalist churches are very good at recruiting and "saving&q
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This page raises lots of red flags. They claim the bible is inerrant, there is a literal Heaven and Hell, man has a sinful nature, etc. That is pretty extreme fundamentalist stuff. The bible is NOT inerrant. It is an inspired book, that has been edited, translated, modified, censored and changed by PEOPLE. The New Testament was written long after the alleged events happened. WATCH O
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This page from that website is pretty good, but i can't speak for the rest of it. They are more "Christian" than me in how the relate the origins of CS. ;-) Eddy flat out lied about how CS was created. She was treated by Quimby, and then stole his ideas, and changed them around a bit! Maybe its a good idea for those who believe in Jesus to move into a moderate Christia
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Haha! I just found this article about CS. Maybe Coz has Supernatural powers!!!! NOtice how they ARDENTLY RESIST testing CS. They know damn well it does not work. Coz Personal testimony of healings play a large part in organized Christian Science gatherings. On the other hand, the Church ardently resists any attempt to test Christian Science in a scientific manner, involving blind
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ok, i reviewed The Quimby Manuscripts. If anyone wants to check out the origin of this Christian Mind Healing, then reading Quimby is a must. He started as a Mesmerizer doing stage shows, and then moved into flat out "mental healing". The guy had a pathological hatred of doctors, and this started this whole "anti-doctor" insanity. He did treat Mary Baker Eddy, and its obv
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For any of those who were followers of MAry Baker Eddy, here is the full-text of The Quimby Manuscripts, which supposedly proves that she stole her ideas from old Quimby. The Quimby Manuscripts Showing the Discovery of Spiritual Healing and the Origin of Christian Science EDITOR'S PREFACE TO THE SECOND EDITION FOR many years a mass of documents of interest to Chris­tian Scientists
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By the way, i spent many years lost in this maze of New Thought, and stepped out of it over 10 years ago, thanks to having the courgage to engage in some critical thinking and skepticism. The bottom line is this. There was this dude named Quimby, who basically did what we now call "hypnosis" on people, and got some results. (relaxation, concentration, suggestion, repetition) He ta
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Here is a fun chart, i have no idea if it is accurate. New Thought History Chart
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There is lots of info about "Emma Curtis Hopkins" on the net. Do a google search of that term. By 1886 she was a practitioner in Chicago, but excommunicated by Mrs. Eddy in 1887 & again in 1888 along with Julius Dresser. ". . . for being Mind-quacks who were spreading abroad patchwork books, false compendiums of my system crediting some ignoramus or infidel with te
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Well i am no techie, but if a person chose a simple password that is out of the dictionary, then it would be very easy for them. There are software password crackers that can run all the dictionary passwords, and in a few hours figure it out. Perhaps this board has protections against that? So use a password that is LONG, has random text and numbers and characters, like.... manWerd#$345Onn
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Here is my main problem with the Unity church and ideologies. First, its a Catch-22. They believe you have to believe 100% with NO DOUBT to get a Demonstration. This sets you up to get extremely confused. They also believe that Thought controls external circumstances. They also believe you can attain the Christ Consciousness, which means you will have the Supernatural Powers of Jesus Christ,
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Its not so much about the specific Beliefs of each sect, but how the organizations are set up. Christian (anti)Science is really a very authoritarian group, and this all comes from good old Mary, who ruled with a Rod Of Iron. I think the beliefs of Christian Antiscience are dangerous, especially in terms of health care. But people can hold all sorts of New Thought ideas, and not be involve
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Also, don't forget when anyone in scAmway is telling you about how much MONEY they are making, that is part of their SALESPITCH to get you to sign up with them. That is the bait. I knew one guy who got into scAmway, and over time, he became out of control. He would tell anyone anything to sign them up. He even had these big cheques from scAmway he would show people, and would say he wou
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Cruise is a raging Egomanic beyond belief. I do think in a sociopathic way he understands what Scientology is all about. Hollywood is such an insane place, and the public literally worships these people. Add on top of that a bunch of cult stuff, and there you have it. Where will it end? Who knows. Hopefully Crusie will keep yapping like an idiot, and displaying his ignorance and stupidit
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I don't know what the hell is up with Oprah. She might just believe that "God is everything" so its all good. Or who knows, maybe its all just business to her. Also, having crazed White Women SCREAM for you everyday and Worship you like a Goddess, might make anyone nutty.
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