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The only thing it makes me think of is that people seem to believe anything if they see it in print, even in a fiction book!!! The Royal Myth of the Da Vinci Code
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If anyone wants to subject Robbins to further analysis, you can hear a "New Year" speech here for free. This webpage below explains how to listen to it. You have to "register", but just do it from a throw-away anonymous email address. He does many many different techniques in this speech. He is reframing business troubles and lawsuits he had, he mentions personal thing
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I think probably that one of Robbins main Rationalizations to himself, maybe, is that he feels he is teaching people a "lesson" that they will never forget for the rest of their lives. The "lesson" is that we are all being profoundly "influenced" by advertising, media, culture, and even the religions and philosophies we live by. He takes people, and if they are s
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By the way, the Robbins people found this thread so damaging to their commissioned sales process on the Robbins web-board, that they DELETED all links to this web-board or this thread. If anyone tried to post a link, they would likely still delete it. Its worth a try though. Someone could start a thread asking some general questions about Robbins work... and then maybe they could post some
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Well i am glad this board turned up under a search for Tony Robbins Cult! Ehhhxxcellent..... The Robbins board used to allow SOME criticism, but a while back they moved to a totally censored board, and they literally delete almost all complaints before they post, as it is moderated. Before, there was lots of negative stuff being posted, and lots of positive stuff too of course. But they got
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(Below are some telling excerpts from a webpage...those of us who know what's going on will recognize what is being done here...) Anthony Robbins helped celebrities such as Sylvester Stallone and Nelson Mandela to realise their potential. So I wondered if he could do the same for me. After I told people I had enrolled on the course I was asked all sorts of questions. Is he a charla
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Hi there former Tony fan! I hope you are having an OUTSTANDING DAY, not just a great day!!!! Great is not good enough, you must push yourself to have an Outstanding day, everyday! ;-) Well, i am glad you read the Unconscious Influence thread. That is SOME of what good ole Tony is doing to people, without their knowledge. Tony has said that his goal is to Influence people without their consc
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That's what Robbins has always said since the beginning. He knows how different people are, and he sends out many messages to many different types of people at once. Its like having a fishing line, with 18 lures on it, for different types of fish. For instance, the only reason he started adding in New Age Quack alternative health stuff, was to tap into that market. Now that is a totall
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So sadly, i watched the rerun of this Cruise on Oprah thing. Knowing the entertainment business, you know that these things do not happen by accident, its all thought-out before hand. It was a PR stunt. Using your personal relationships to get into the hearts and mind of people, of course mainly women on that show. Give the people what they want. But at some point, i think the public ha
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Inside Hollywood's Hottest Cult Part One: Red String Theory A four-month Radar investigation reveals how a renegade rabbi and his striver wife ended up atop a multi- million-dollar empire built on bracelets, bottled water, and Madonna. (from) In any case, be sure to follow Radar Online's series as it explores: The false claims the Centre has made about its distingui
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Well i watched the 20/20 piece., It was a 35 min piece. They succeeded in getting a lot more followers for these people. They did allow one Rabbi to criticize them, but of course, they avoided the #1 issue. The techniques of the how they are persuading people to join this New Age Cult. This Kabballah thing, is just a New Age cult of Greed and Narcissism. The Berg's have set it u
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I just saw some TV story about Cruise and Katie. This is another example where Katie is not likely a cult victim directly. She is coming out with her first feature film, so this is all a PR stunt to turn her into the newest hottest actress in the world. Pretty smart really, in a PR way. In one step, she is world famous, and has set up her career for at least 10 years. Sometimes i think a
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This is on tonight, i wonder if its going to be a "Puff Piece"? Coming Up on 2020 Watch "20/20" Fridays at 10 p.m. ET / 9 C Elizabeth Vargas takes an exclusive look inside the controversial spiritual movement called Kaballah. -------------- What's Behind Hollywood's Fascination with Kabbalah? New Take on Ancient Jewish Spiritual Teachings Has Drawn
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LONDON (AP) -- Katie Holmes says she's converting to the Church of Scientology, embracing the religion of her boyfriend, Tom Cruise. Holmes, in London to promote her new film, "Batman Begins," said Monday that she's excited about her lessons in Scientology, a religion founded by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard. The former Catholic and star of television's "D
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THE INDOCTRINATION PROCESS IS IN FULL GEAR.... Website Seeks to "Free Katie" by Sarah Hall Jun 9, 2005, 12:30 PM PT Though Katie Holmes may claim that her love for Tom Cruise is the real deal, skeptics continue to insist that the relationship is nothing but a made-for-Hollywood sham. Case in point: www.FreeKatie.net a Website that proclaims itself dedicated to "
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Well, i think this phoney Kaballah is a scam, and i think Madonna is in on the scam, for her own interests. She is selling this crud to children, and has always cynically manipulated the public for her own gain, going from one thing to the other. Even Warren Beatty talked about how nutty she was in that crappy documentary she made, where she is deep-throating bottles, and other things of that
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People who are adopted, or come from broken families, etc, also have this problem. I have this medical problem myself, not being able to access much famly medical info. I don't know my grandparents info, and they are long gone. Frankly, i don't worry about it. I just get a check-up once a year, monitor my blood pressure when i give blood, and try to monitor my health. If you get
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The Suffering of Children Imagine those children at home, being told by their parents that their illness is not real and that the pain they feel is not a part of the real world--God's world. Imagine yourself at six or nine or twelve being very sick and hearing your parents read to you Eddy's definition of man, which begins, "Man is not matter; he is not made up of brain, bl
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MRS. EDDY IN ERROR I feel almost sure that Mrs. Eddy's inspiration--works are getting out of repair. I think so because they made some errors in a statement which she uttered through the press on the 17th of January. Not large ones, perhaps, still it is a friend's duty to straighten such things out and get them right when he can. Therefore I will put my other duties
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I just finished reading Mark Twains Christian Science, and i would recommend that anyone involved with ANY type of cult, or cultish leader, read that book. Its only about 100 small pages. This book should be required reading for any cult watcher. Every cult needs a Mark Twain to take them apart, and show how the cult operates. Here is the entire book FOR FREE. It can be posted on any of your we
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Unfortunately, Eddy's forceful personality sometimes turned downright bizarre. She lied freely about her education, her age, her marriages, her role in the emancipation of slaves. She believed that she could control the weather (''I have heard our Leader describe in a number of instances how she has dissipated a thundercloud by simply looking upon it,'' one employee rep
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CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas (AP) -- Child welfare officials seized a 12-year-old cancer patient from her parents, saying they were blocking radiation treatment that doctors say she needs. During a court hearing Wednesday, Michele and Edward Wernecke asked that doctors be barred from giving radiation therapy to their daughter Katie until a hearing next week to determine whether she will stay in state
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The respectable cult ---------------------------- Like Jonestown in slow motion Caroline Fraser, author of "God's Perfect Child," talks about the casualties of Christian Science's belief in the power of prayer and the media's soft spot for the church. Could you review, briefly, your arguments challenging the testimonials, that is, the accounts of heali
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(Mark Twain) Readers are not allowed to copy out passages and read them from the manuscript in the pulpit; they must read from Mrs. Eddy's book itself. She is right. Slight changes could be slyly made, repeated, and in time get acceptance with congregations. Branch sects could grow out of these practices. Mrs. Eddy knows the human race, and how far to trust it. Her limit is n
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(Mark Twain) Largely speaking, I have read acres of what purported to be Mrs. Eddy's writings, in the past two months. I cannot know, but I am convinced, that the circumstantial evidence shows that her actual share in the work of composing and phrasing these things was so slight as to be inconsequential. Where she puts her literary foot down, her trail across her paid polisher�
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Hey Boz, thx for the post. Yeah, i have atheistic tendencies, but that is not what this forum is about at all. Belief in God, or not, is a personal matter, and each person has to figure that baby out for themselves as best as they can. To me it seems, what matters is how these organizations work, and what they are doing to people. I don't know the motives of the Fillmores, but they we
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From CS by Mark Twain CHAPTER VII "We consciously declare that Science and Health, with Key to the Scriptures, was foretold, as well as its author, Mary Baker Eddy, in Revelation x. She is the 'mighty angel,' or God's highest thought to this age (verse 1), giving us the spiritual interpretation of the Bible in the 'little book open' (verse 2). Thus we
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This is a MUST read!! You will laugh so hard tears will stream from your eyes! Hopefully Rick Ross will add this link to his CS page!! Christian Science, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) This eBook is for the use of anyone anywhere at no cost and with almost no restrictions whatsoever. You may copy it, give it away or re-use it under the terms of the Project Gutenberg License inc
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Be VERY careful you find someone with SPECIFC PTSD training to help you. This is not a job for people to "practice" on you. Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy is the treatment of choice. (stay away from EMDR, in my view. There are lots of problems with this). An excellent book is "Trauma and Recovery" by Herman. Coz
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