Back in the saddle again . . . Sally's not killed him with her decrees yet. Bruce and Dorothy (Emerald City? She is so deluded she thinks she is in OZ now!!), and a crappy website are back in business at: Seems Grape Lite Floundation "fired" Bruce (or he quit) awhile back. Maybe BooneTahoe, aka Jayson Orvis, who is NOT on the board or training for GLF (right -- LIAR),
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>>sitting in front of a tree that "called" to me<< Yep. That's called "entraining" with the tree. I bought into that too. But I remember wondering even back then, if you sit next to a train and try to get it to talk to you, is that called "entreeing?" If we could just get Hans to marry off some 15 year olds, we could get the feds to shut t
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>>One of my very close family members is attending Quest training this week. << It's Thursday night, midnight as I write. All's quiet in our home here, but over at Impact it's FEEDBACK ARCS right now. Earlier was Red/Black. Some participants will not be back tomorrow. Some left in the middle of the Feedback process, trailing TIT3ers chasing after them. S
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Idiots Manipulating People All Crimes Tollerated --Ed
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>>If "the law of attraction" actually existed, I would have had a pony, a castle, and the power to fly as a little girl.<< You don't get the Law of Attraction at all. It works perfectly. You see, Hans was just declaring something else for you at the time. Hope that clears things up, --Ed :)
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>>It's kinda like they're driving a car they know was stolen by someone, who stole it from someone else, who stole it from someone else, who took some parts from another stolen car and welded them on, and put a gloss of new paint on it -- and they actively do not want to know, or research, who any of the car they are driving really belongs to. Their desire to keep the car running
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Former, WOW. Excellent post. Your writing is full of clarity, percision and power. One minor point to correct: >>the end though boonetahoe has a vested financial interest in the success of LGAT trainings, especially Impact where much of his training's processes were stolen from, << This is only true in the sense that a thief who robs another thief's home has li
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Shad, >>sorry to burst your illusionary bubble Impacted, but THAT is just not going to happen, no matter how much you think about it! << Not just thinking . . . . aaaaaaaaafffffiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmming, Deeeeeecccccllllllarrrrriiiiiinnnnng, Decreeing, Chanting with an entire group of 400+ TIT 3ers (Han's cultie followers at the immmmmmmmpppppppppp
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Any chance these are Impact (or GLF or Vision Works or Harmony or Rising Star or Premier Education or Resource Realizations, or The Experience) grads??? >>"A supervisor at a motivational coaching business in Provo is accused of waterboarding an employee . . . former Prosper, Inc. salesman Chad Hudgens alleges his managers also . . . beat on their desks with a wooden paddle "
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So I hear 110 people started LMT 1 last night, at $1,500.00 each or about $150.000.00 cash to the Bergers for three weekends worth of work . . . Isn't there something wrong with this picture? Can Chakras and Affirmations 101 really be worth that?!?!? The good news has got to be that as they get larger and larger someone there will pull curtain down on them . . . And I know not ever
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>>if you can't say anything negative about that, I'd rather you not say anything at all.<< It's clear to me now. I am here for the laughs I get from you guys! Oh, my sides are hurting on this one. LOVE you guys. 4's all around! ---Ed
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I thought about a Rick Ross Forum and created everything here . . . just like in The Secret . . . all of you . . . each of you. . . . you are my creation . . . you are mine . . . everything you own is mine. . . send it to me now. Hans
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>>So, yeah Heart, come back in a year and a half, maybe two and then I might listen to your testimonial. << Ditto. I'm tuning out. Sorry Heart but I'd as soon listen to one of David Koresh's Branch Davidians when they were all sure he was God, as listen to any further defense of Hans, Sally or BoooneOrvis by anyone . . . Maybe I'm missing out on something i
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Nice to see Boonetahoe defending Impact again. What an idiot. He's no longer at Impact. Hans and Sally would NEVER even let him in the building. (Of course he has to defend Impact because everything Great Life does was what he and others learned to do from Hans and Sally. Nothing new there at all.) (Interestingly, I still seem to be welcome there -- dropped by Sally's GP recentl
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If you have money in this bank, or any other relationship with them, LOOK AT THIS VIDEO. >>>Planning For Success Available Dates: 2/26/08 9:00am - 12:00pm 7/22/08 9:00am - 12:00pm Great Life Foundation 351 West Lawndale (2500 S) Salt Lake City, UT <<<< They are being "trained" by the Great Life Foundation, they are having meetings at the Grea
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Out them. Share their PM's here. I keep hearing our friends at the Grape Life Floundation are lurking and recruiting from here. --Ed
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WOW, Can't believe I missed this . . . TIT 3ers are Light Workers just like Obi Wan . . . >>; >>In a distant galaxy far, far away, an elite group of Light Beings set out to create transformation in the universe and they sent out the word and the word was -- May the force be with you young padawan. -- And Light Beings responded to the call from the planet URTH. The power
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WOW, Can't believe I missed this: >>; >>In a distant galaxy far, far away, an elite group of Light Beings set out to create transformation in the universe and they sent out the word and the word was -- May the force be with you young padawan. -- And Light Beings responded to the call from the planet URTH. The power of their response called forth a premiere showing of...
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Apparently these guys are still working on their version of The Secret video: See: If this guy isn't Justin's (Impact's Quest Trainer, except when Hans wants to prove he can do it better) younger brother, he must be a direct clone . . . --Ed
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Hans has a brother who apparently tells a vastly different version of the "escape from Germany" story -- apparently has nothing to do with Hans and see's Hans' version as one confused by too many viewings of The Sound of Music. Hans also has an ex-wife and Sally an Ex-husband who would be worth researching/contacting. Each also has siblings with whom they do not speak.
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Hopeful Soul wrote: >>Impact processes are excessive, dangerous, universally bad and have no redeeming value as far as I am concerned.<< I agree with this with just a couple of refinements: 1) These are NOT "Impact processes." Hans and Sally stole them from their Lifespring training. Lifespring did Feedback Arcs in their second (not first) level, did them right be
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PS It might serve to consider disclosing what happens in the Women's and Couple's trainings there. A friend of mine on the South Salt Lake City police force called me when I was involved with Impact to tell me that they had gotten calls with complaints about the nudity and sexuality in the Women's training. Back then I downplayed (lied about) what was happening in there. I
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There's lots of hugging. One process in Summit where you are expected to hug 100 to 200+ different people, most complete strangers, and be hugged by them. Another after ropes where you are blindfolded and craddled on the floor by a group of people. Almost every time I did that (and as an "Angel" and as a staff member I did this many, many times over they years), there was al
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>> I would never credit an abuser with any strengths gained from overcoming the experience of abuse. << Amen to this! Impacted (and Great Life and all the others that I've seen, heard, read about) teach exactly the opposite. Not only should you give them credit, you should also: 1) Be grateful to them for the lessons 2) Recognize that the abuser is actually your be
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Spiritual? >>So, are you telling me that you would want me to invest hundreds of dollars into a training that claims certain attributes, but doesn't "promise" anything?<< Great question and no wonder Boonetahoe (aka Jayson Orvis, aka on the board of directors of Great Life, aka Impact grad from around 1997 or so) has not answered your question. How outrageous o
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Formerimpactgrad, >>Is there any evidence that they do any good?<< Great question. Here's what the Great Life Foundation (and Boonetahoe and all their other employees, trainers, and volunteers) promise prospective participants in the way of the "good things" they will experience there (from www.greatlifefoundation.con -- oh, I mean .com website). THEY PROM
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skibum, >>In response to your other questions, here is what I understand. . . .<< Thanks for the response. You've proved my point. The process you described is what happened. The description that: The Harmony Institute closed and then merely "referred" its grads to the Great Life Foundation was dishonest. Same building. Same landlord. Same assets.
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>>I think you're being overzealous with your legal interpretation<< Perhaps. But many of these "coaches" and "trainers" use the LGATs as recruiting grounds for their own "extra" personal coaching sessions on the side. Anyone care to share about your experience with that? Maybe not here (no need to put them on guard) but directly with the
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>>I'm also suprised by your criticism of GLF trainers and employees "pretending" to be grads<< They are also, at least some of them, pretending to be CEOs of other companies, in Kim Ashton's case, two different "paper" companies. And while I was wrong, and Analee's company does exist, she lists herself as CEO. Anyone want to bet whether she is t
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I don't know if anything I have written here has kept anyone out of an LGAT, but I do know that printouts of the best of the posts here which I have sent to others have been used to keep people out of Impact and GLF (especially when a friend of a friend saw how deceptive one of their Board of Director memebers was in posting here). Sometimes I think we're just writing to Sally and Ja
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