There is now an article up at Cult News about the death of Jim Roberts. See
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Thank you for obtaining the coroner's report that proves Jim Roberts death.
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Obituary or news story.
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Well, that would be proof. Otherwise there is no proof you have produced yet.
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Some proof through documentation would be interesting.
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We respect the choices of everyone posting here. Some believe in the bible and some do not. We avoid preaching, which is against the rules agreed to by all members here at the message board.
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Looks like a false alarm. Just like I initially said.
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Maybe. I don't know. It's still early. But if the lapsed status continues into next month it would certainly be appropriate.
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It's really rather a simple matter that takes very little time. 1. If he doesn't renew his license over a period of months than he is, for whatever reason, no longer a licensed mental health professional. 2. If he continues to advertise that he is licensed professional and he is not, anyone can report him and he will be in trouble. Not complicated, not time consuming-- it'
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Please keep everyone here advised. This could be serious or a bureaucratic matter of paperwork and delays. It will be interesting to find out what is happening and how this works out.
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OK. Time will tell.
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He probably just neglected to send in the paperwork and it will be resolved soon.
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Blurb: Excuse me. There is a company called Gratitude Cafe that supports Landmark Education programs for its employees. There should be no confusion between the LGAT "Gratitude" and the Gratitude Cafe that supports Landmark. You say, "Gratitude is simply the MOST EFFECTIVE approach that they've personally encountered among a wide range of options." How do you p
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cheerylizard : You have disclosed your calculation regarding teacher salaries. Again, what is your calculation concerning the salaries and compensation packages paid out to SMC leaders? Please break it down.
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dabcult: "Glossy eyed self deceivers who need to brush away the truth to grind their leaders axe"? Please don't blame or shame cult victims that have been lied to, tricked and trapped by cult leaders. There is deception, submission and free labor for the cult leader's benefit, but it's achieved by trickery and a system of psychological and emotional traps set by
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I take calls at the office during office hours. See
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To whom it may concern: LGATs (large group awareness training) like Gratitude is in business to essentially sell the philosophy of the LGAT leader or owner. Most LGATs around today copy other LGATs. The most established and successful LGAT is probably Landmark Education, formerly known as EST (Erhard Seminar Training) founded by Werner Erhard. See Landmark, which claims to provide its p
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Does the general SMC membership of the congregation receive an annual budget, which discloses in detail the salaries and compensation paid out from its funds to staff and executives? Or is it that no one in the SMC general membership, except for a select few, actually knows exactly who receives payments and how much? It seems like quite a bit is hidden.
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The book "Cults Inside Out" discusses ISKCON. See Reading this book might be helpful.
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cheerylizard: Does the church disclose in its annual budget all salaries and compensation paid out to staff in an independently audited statement to all contributors? If so could you disclose the salaries paid out and compensation package of top staffers?
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Spy? There is no need to spy as the board is public and anyone registered or not registered can read it. It's interesting to know that the Meade group is so interested in what is posted here. Are families now in regular communication or are they still estranged from family members outside of the church? Is the church now democratically governed like typical Assemblies of God churches
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Seems to be myth, but mentioned in many conspiracy theories.
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pbxguy: You so come across as a bit 'self-righteous" and judgemental. People are often profoundly hurt and damaged by destructive cults like The Walk and it may affect their life for many years. it's important to sort through this by educating yourself about coercive persuasion and influence techniques and what all cults hare in common regarding their behavior and dynamics.
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Southern-Boy : You seem to be here essentially as an apologist and largely to cast doubt upon anyone posting critical comments here about The Walk and John Robert Stevens. You say you "only met JRS a few times' so you have limited experience. And as you admit Marilyn is "only a name" to you. You also seem to endorse dictatorial church government whey you say, "Ma
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There is quite a bit of information about LGATs (large group awareness training) also called mass marathon training. See To better understand the coercive persuasion used by many LGATs see There is a also a book available that includes a chapter about LGAT and getting someone out of an LGAT. See
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There is quite a bit of information about LGATs (large group awareness training) also called mass marathon training. See To better understand the coercive persuasion used by many LGATs see There is a also a book available that includes a chapter about LGAT and getting someone out of an LGAT. See
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ohgreatfoot: You are a "cult hopper" jumping from one cult group to another because you never processed and unpacked your experience in any meaningful way. You are a case example to anyone reading this thread of why people must educate themselves very specifically about cults as part of the process of recovery after leaving a cult. No one here is expressing "hate," bu
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ohgreatfoot: Why are you here? You seem to be an apologist for Frederick Lenz, who was a deeply destructive and notorious purported cult leader. You are offering terrible advice here and engaging in victim bashing. People that join cults most often are tricked and trapped by the group through a process of deception and manipulation used to gain undue influence. Please don't wast
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Fredrick Lenze was considered a notorious "cult" leader and reportedly hurt many people. See Lenz died from a drug overdose some years ago. See Here are some basic warning signs to watch for that may be helpful. Some cults may be benign, but most are harmful and exploit people. See This book explains the modern history of destructive cults, offers assessment tool
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Yes. It appears to be an LGAT. Would not recommend an LGAT to anyone under any circumstances.
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