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15 years ago
midonov123
QuotelightwolfGood link Mike, I found this part elucidating: QuoteYet it is inherently safe, despite its power, because it is based on the application of a completely holistic level of Natural Law. It's interesting to see the links between different aspects of the New Age philosophy. The quote above is heard in different ways in alternative or holistic medicine. This is what will save
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
QuoteSavernakeI can't understand what all the fuss is about with "What the Bleep". It's one of the worst movies I've ever seen. The "scientific" priniciples are so inaccurately applied, and that blonde lady reminded me too much of Captain Kirk for me to take any of it seriously. And the weird thing is, presented in a better format, I probably would have liked
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
Quoteleftcoast8Thanks for both of your opinions. That's pretty much what I was expecting to hear. I've tried talking with her--both gently and sternly. It's clear to me that what I say doesn't register with her. For instance, she recently went on a cleaning spree, and I noticed in previous posts that that can sometimes be assigned as homework. I asked her about it, and sh
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15 years ago
midonov123
QuoteorangeperuviscachaHo Hum!.... Here comes the "sacred science" (see Robert Lifton's 8 themes of a totalistic cult). Good observation! Quote The "Sacred Science" The cult's ideology becomes the ultimate moral vision for the ordering of human existence. The ideology is too "sacred" to call into question, and a reverence is demanded for the leade
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
Quotelooking for helpSequel coming out in this month "What the"Bleep" Do We Know...Down the Rabbit Hole" Here is the website: Excerpt from the website: Quote The movie event so many have been waiting for! What the BLEEP!? - Down the Rabbit Hole will be released in theaters in the United States in February. Containing NEW scientific information, never before seen foot
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
QuoteMercurialMereI have been perusing this forum since yesterday, but was compelled to register by this thread. I work for a company whose management participates regularly in the Landmark forums. I was cajoled into going to a meeting, an experience I'll save for a more relevant thread. After reading this thread, I remembered an interesting tidbit. A few weeks ago, before I was invi
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
QuoteorangeperuviscachaHi, After educating myself somewhat about LGAT's, i came across this article by Richard Ofshe on this site. It's about 10 A4 pages long, but it's the best article i have read to date on the subject. Though it is not specifically written about the LGAT groups, it nails them! This paper is in line with the work of Margaret T. Singer and the DIMPAC ta
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
QuotenutrinoQuote This new philosophy gives participants a sense of infantile omnipotence where everything becomes possible, and where you become fully responsible for your own choices (being rich, poor, sick, healthy, or being hit by a truck!”. No consideration is given to the wholesale incoherence of such a belief. Do all minds go about creating their reality ? Then do monkeys create reality
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
Quoteorangeperuviscachahaving read that document about signing a form absolving them from any possible psychological damage, i cannot for the life of me see why anyone would proceed beyond this point. I think nobody really believes one can get psychological damage from attending a simple 3 days seminar. We think we are strong and that our brain is solid. It is not.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
QuoteGulab JamonWell, I still liked the movie. ... only for entertainment ;)
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15 years ago
midonov123
QuoteMontrealI have not seen this documentary/movie, but have seen it come up in postings, where they have recommended Landmark graduates to go see it. How is this documentary/movie related to Landmark Education and/or LGAT groups in general? Montreal, I gave a few hints about the movie in a previous post. I am reproducing it below fyi. From : One of the changes of paradi
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15 years ago
midonov123
QuoterrmoderatorWright Again: I have never encountered drug induced psychosis linked to an LGAT. This type of group can produce psychosis withou drugs and many participatnts have susequently required the care of doctor and in extreme cases some have been hospitalized. But in such situations that I know of no one was found to have been given drugs during through the LGAT. The manipula
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15 years ago
midonov123
Quotebelle1I was wondering if anyone has any information/thoughts of Indigo and/or Crystal children? The author and metaphysician Doreen Virtue has written extensively about this topic and it is my belief that I have one Indigo and three Crystal children myself. I have experienced a lot of negative comments from people, telling me that I allow my children to walk all over me and don't te
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
15 years ago
midonov123
QuoteEther DragonI have asked her the question, "if LE is so great, how come our marriage has taken such a negative turn because of it?" Her response is simple - because I am so fanatical about LE that I can't accept that it may actually have merits. Nice twist, eh? . E Dragon, I she being "coached" back into Landmark or is she really doing this on her own? Ask he
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15 years ago
midonov123
QuotemonaYes, I can share my experience in hopes of helping others. I am not a healthcare professional but just a stay-home-mom looking for career advice. I took the forum to focus on myself, find my strengths, and figure out what direction to take, and what kind of career path to follow next... Mona, Thanks for telling us about your traumatic experience. This is really scary. I wonder, w
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15 years ago
midonov123
QuoteEther DragonMy wife suddenly renewed her interest in Landmark over the weekend, and has decided to go back to the weekly sessions post-Forum. After having read all of the LGAT material I could throw at her, testimonials from former LE participants, and media reports, she's dismissed them all. Her reasoning? She feels that she has obtained positive tools to help her with her life.
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15 years ago
midonov123
Quotejoe6In discussing why Landmark is allowed to continue, the best example we have of a success in stopping it is what happened in France. I watched the documentary that was mentioned on another thread: My French is not that great, but they focussed on a new French law for controlling cults. Almost every sentence was asking if Landmark is a "secte" because if it is, the law wou
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
QuoteKateLHHello My name is Kate and I live in Sydney Australia. Just before Xmas my sister did a course called Turning Point. My Internet investigation shows that this is very similiar to Landmark Forum which operates in Sydney as well. Both have "est" as a base and all descriptions of what goes on closely match. My sister did this couse Sat and Sun 17, 18 Dec. Her husband fo
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
QuotelightwolfMy own experience is that what leads to the breakdown of the relationship is the lack of common ground. An emotionally initimate relationship requires some shared territory, and with the introduction of Landmark re-wiring her belief system, we now have none. That's what led to our lack of communication -- I didn't want to hear about Landmark anymore (and since that becam
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
Quotelightwolf One of the concepts that she raised was "Potentially Endearing Qualities." These are things you don't accept in your partner (such as annoying behaviors, incommunicativity, whatever) but should learn to. ... This of course would eventually lead to a "breakdown" (Landmark term). Lightwolf, Would you say that, if someone is doing the RELATIONSHIP
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15 years ago
midonov123
Does anyone knows what are the basics of the RELATIONSHIP SEMINARS. Is it in essence something like "If your partner loves you he will do the LF", "If he trusts you he will do the LF", etc ... or is there something more interesting to it?! Also, I heard that when you are an Introduction Leader, you must do the LF every two years. Does it mean pay $500 everytime among ot
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
QuotenettieGOOD AND BAD RESULTS ... You may end up taking medication for psychosis and who will listen to a psychotic? I often hear about people having psychotic episode after their participation to LE. I understand that a psychosis is about having delusions and loosing contact with reality. This can take numerous forms. Some examples are of religious nature (the person sees angels, thi
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
QuoteClausDIaQuotemidonov123 I understand that Landmark is all about having a breakthrough in your life. Could you tell us a little bit about the breakthrough that you have experienced at the time and would you say that you have benefited from that breakthrough while you were participating? I think it is dangerous to ask about a "good side" of LE ... Then you are already in a so
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15 years ago
midonov123
Quotesonnie_deeQuoteCould someone please elaborate as to what they teach regarding using sex and seductive practices to lure in others? they dont specifically teach how to use sex to pull people in but they use the following type of phrases "if you want your relationships to work you must all think in the same manner" "if your partner loves you they will trust you and do
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
QuotemonaI went to LF and experienced it two months ago. I want to warn everybody! Do not participate under any circumstances. I would be willing to talk to a reporter who is studying it. Mona, Could you please elaborate as to why you urge everybody not to participate. What did you experienced (feelings) or what is your analysis (reason) that makes you say that? If it's a personal opi
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
Quotenettie People go bananas. I did and so did many, many other bright people. When will this nonsence stop? nettie Nettie, Thanks again for your excellent posts. I have one question. I understand that Landmark is all about having a breakthrough in your life. Could you tell us a little bit about the breakthrough that you have experienced at the time and would you say that you have ben
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
Quotesonnie_deeMidonov, Landmark changed the forum slightly in 2000/2001 using the new "distinction" of enrollment separate from registration. They taught us all how we had collasped the two and that they were sepparate. Enrollment (according to landmark) is sharing possibility with another such that they are left moved touched and inspired. When you enrol someone they wan
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15 years ago
midonov123
The Wikipedia article about Landmark Education refers to a philosophical paper published in Contemporary Philosophy Vol XXIII No.1&2, pp51-59, 2001 "The Promise of Philosophy and the Landmark Forum" - University of Colorado (Philosophy Professor Steven McCarl et al) The paper talks about the virtues of self-knowledge, refers to Socrates and asks if it "WOULD IT B
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15 years ago
midonov123
RR, I think it should be put over the database as one document under Landmark or The Forum or both when nettie considers it is near completed.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
midonov123
QuotegrubHi, I'm downloading a video entitled "Pièces À Conviction - Secte Landmark Education" off eMule. My French is very rusty. Has anyone seen this or can anyone tell me what it's about? Yes, I've seen it last year. It's the France-3 documentary that was intrumental in kicking out Landmark from the French territory. A must see!!! It's available usi
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