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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
many couples that take the landmark forum end up in divorce. on the other hand divorce is quite common in the u s. when i have had discussions with landmark grads and the topic of divorce comes up i hear and i quote "whos to say they werent gonna get a divorce anyway " which by the way is a very good response. not all people will get divorced, but many will divorce if j
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
i did the forum in jan 96 jinnendrah jain was the forum leader.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
21 years ago
patrick-darcy
Quotesian There has been a scientific study underataken by the Talent Organisation (put a search engine on it to get the webb address. )What is wrong with a company making money?.... Is not the entire western world built upon such a basic way of operating. I am not interseted in the fact that the founder has got rich off it. Bill Gates and Richard Branson have got rich off me buying software and
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
i want to communicate that when people leave, the depression, or the sadness, or the feeling that they are doing something wrong by leaving landmark or other groups is itself proof of the power of these groups. i have been speaking out for years against them and it seems that people dont understand this. for some, just leaving is traumatic. that says a lot for their ability to use people.
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
yes, i have spoken to some people that are lifespring grads and they are basically landmark grads. they have a little change in jargon but not in the mind control.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
21 years ago
patrick-darcy
QuoteJana something that people seem to never mention is that landmark licenses their tech. maybe this group is a sect of landmark. a paying group.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
21 years ago
patrick-darcy
u cant take a cult training and not come away with some of the cult in u. to suggest u take a forum but leave without the cult stuff is quite incredible. it is a form of mind control. it is not u mind controlling yourself, it is them doing u in the forum. one of landmarks comments is take what u want and leave the rest. as long as u take something from them they a hold on u. tha
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
psycological damaging, absolutely. but it is their right to do this. those little minds are being taught that being terrorized is negative, but doing the terror to others is the positive. landmark call this the empowerment process. these children are being empowered to terror. the chrisitians and i have spoke to many of them dont care. they are too busy with their money.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
21 years ago
patrick-darcy
this is a sad post. basically this user is saying "mind control me but dont use any of the cult stuff" this says a lot about the rest of us. people want to feel good and one of the quickest easiest ways to do it to have your thinking taken from u. its astonishing but its true.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
21 years ago
patrick-darcy
i would consider u to be very lucky. u may have had some problems with your participation in your group but i have found through the years that i have been coming against the cults that there are people who for whatever reason, their minds cant be taken completely under their direction. i cant prove this but i believe that because of the power of the mind control techniques that some pe
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
21 years ago
patrick-darcy
landmark preys on its victims. many people attend landmark when they have a death in the family. of course they feel down. when they lose a good job. of course they feel down. when they have maritial problem, again they feel down. and there are many other things that can happen in peoples lives that make them feel down or in need. this is how the people of the united states m
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
21 years ago
patrick-darcy
its worth a try, but keep one thing in mind. landmark pays taxes and any group doing practically anything in the united states is respected if they pay taxes. its the republican thing of "creating jobs" and of couse landmark would lie and say they dont do this in childrens forums. and someone was to sit through a forum they wouldnt do it at that particular forum and then the
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
i have never attended a childrens or young peoples forum but i have spoken to many that have brought their children there. i understand that the young peoples forum is basically the same as the forum for adults. imagine those children are dropped to their knees in terror and then taken to histerical laughter as they are the ones doing the terror. hello hello does anybody have the s
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
lets dont forget, and even landmark makes mention that landmark is partially based on heidegger's teaching. heidegger was a nazi and people can see semblences of nazi think in landmark grads. its amazing. usually landmarkians will mention that everyone in germany at the time of the reich was a nazi. what they dont seem to understand that heidegger was one of the few that sat down at
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
21 years ago
patrick-darcy
this is one fascinating truth about the forum. after reading the posts in this thread u understand something. people will tell u that landmark should not attempt to call illness a racket. but, then they go on and say that because of this or that the forum has value. people dont understand that one thing the forum does do to most people is allow them to rationalize landmark to their be
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
Quoteglenn7 darcy quoted, exactly what landmark wanted u to do. they want u to trust them. i find it fascinating that by filling u with jargon and meaninglessness u trust them, so surprises there. why does that surprice you darcy? i think u just misread my post glenn :) why does what someone says you to do, that is with your mind, scare you? is that your fear darcy? i do
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
exactly, and yet people in the united states allow it. one group tells me that if the people are that stupid then they deserve what they get. another group tells me that and i quote "we dont need them" other groups tell me that they dont care and that the nation will continue without these people. our nation will not survive as we become little groups that only want
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
in the empowerment process people are dropped to their knees in terror and then they are reduced to hysterical laughter when they are percieving as doing the terrorizing. which is the positive and which is the negative ?
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
Originally posted by glenn7 "i have done the landmark form and advanced course, i got alot out of it, it did help with all aspects of my life. i have told people about it, and they run it down and thats ok. people even have run me down for doing it. and thats ok. but the thing i notice about these people is they run everything thing down that they don't understand, like ,trus
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
QuoteKatydid I'm having a really hard time following the exchange on this thread right now. Why are entire posts being copied and reposted? Sometimes there's a reply at the bottom and sometimes there's not. Why do the some of the posts go all the way across the page and some look like haiku? P-D: i am learning to use this software. I am having a really hard t
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
Quoteglenn7 darcy.. you did not answer my fear question on the other forum, is that your fear? before the forum and especially after the advanced course. i confront my fears now darcy, before i did landmark i did not confront my fears, i would make excuses, blame someone else, runaway. question not believing in landmark is that your fear? i have no fear. and do u see how your way of
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
Quoteglenn7 no i was not getting angry darcy! you should not jump to conclusion. that listening hearing thing again darcy. ok, there that jargon thing again darcy. ok sorry this is for you darcy. listen hearing= to listen to what someone said and with out your interparation impeeding or your preconceived ideas or jumping to conclusion. i wasnt jumping to conclustions. i though
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
QuoteKatydid P-D Why not tell everybody your top three or top five objections to LF and whether you got anything (good or bad) out of it. What I've gotten so far is: 1. Landmark uses hypnoosis 2. Landmark uses hypnosis without permission 3. A program that involves hypnosis is no place for education 4. In some LF excercises, attendees are told it is a fear excercise and in
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
21 years ago
patrick-darcy
QuoteHope PD, My problem answering your ? stems from my lack of knowledge about hypnosis. I'm still learning. My focus has been on the issue of LE playing doctor, rather than their use of trance states, which I'm reading about. Perhaps it's a matter of experts making their craft look simple and I fell for it, not even realizing it. Now would using the idea of people'
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
21 years ago
patrick-darcy
QuoteHope PD, My problem answering your ? stems from my lack of knowledge about hypnosis. I'm still learning. My focus has been on the issue of LE playing doctor, rather than their use of trance states, which I'm reading about. Perhaps it's a matter of experts making their craft look simple and I fell for it, not even realizing it. Now would using the idea of people'
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
Quoteglenn7 patrick and hope, in all due respects, have you done the advanced course? did you get it? on the last night of the forum, and the leader asked has anyone not got it. if you did not get it did you get up? did you get up and question the not getting it? the last night of the forum i am assuming u mean the guest night. jennendra told us each and every day during the foru
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
Quoteglenn7 darcy, question 2....glenn , how do u deal with fear now and how is it different from before ? see i feel your question is a point making question, you are trying to make a point to me, or trying to make me wrong for your little jollies, that is your winning formula or is it. you tell me darcy? there u go getting angry. its part of the mind wash. wheneven someone att
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21 years ago
patrick-darcy
maybe u can join in here and explain to everybody how u deal with fear differently now that u have attended the forum. and also tell us how u dealt with it before. thanks
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
21 years ago
patrick-darcy
Quoteglenn7 i did the forum, and at the part in question, i thought it as a bit strange but i would go on with it. can u explain what " i would go on with it " means. people did cry around me, i thought what are they crying about, and should i be crying to. as from my past experiences no one in the room made me scared or the world. then the forum leader said can
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
21 years ago
patrick-darcy
QuoteKatydid P-D: "my question is how does this empower someone. how does making someone under hypnosis more powerful ?" I assume you meant to include the word(s) "feel fearful" or "fearful" between the words "someone" and "under" What I got out of the exercise was the following: 1. Each individual can create an emotional and
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