What I find interesting is that most of the MKP supporters say the program is not for everyone. Yet there is no real screening process (the form you fill out inside the door doesn't count), and the recruiting drives are relentless. If it's not for everyone, why can anyone go? Second, all of the MKP'ers I know including my wife seem to have taken manipulation and bullying to a ne
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Where is everyone? Any news from any of you?
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Anybody else getting PM's from Zeusor? The MKP forum is the only one I've posted on, plus the spam attacks....hmmmmm!
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I'd be curious what clicking on one of the links would do to my virus scanner. I suspect it's more than drumming up business.
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When I checked Wikipedia's entry on the Mankind Project in January, It was marginally okay. It had mentions of claims of being compared to a cult, links to both pro and con articles (incl RickRoss) etc. Now It has only one mention of the word cult, there are no links to any negative sites, and it almost reaks of pro-MKP writing. It's become nothing more than another marketing tool.
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Hi all, I see the post has been quiet for a while. So my wife (still in WWI but having a few questions), and I have a night set aside now where we turn off every electronic device, don't answer the phone etc and just talk. She still insists every problem in the marriage is caused by my issues etc. And believe me I have a few of them, but will not take sole responsibility for all of our pr
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GFTR99, My misuse of the MKP's "Men of Integrity" phrase was out of line, and I sincerely apoligize for it, it's been used on me by a member of my family lately, and I was being snotty. But my compliment on the writing was genuine. I personally would not dismiss anyone's opinions, but in my field, I need to focus solely on hard facts and risk assessments, a view I often f
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That was a very detailed and well written post, thank you for taking the time to avoid the knee jerk reaction. Since the men were ordered to take the "treatment" not an educational weekend, and you know them personally, could you provide some concrete details. I think a man of integrity would step up and post the names of those involved. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't t
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The few people I've spoken with, who I trust to tell the truth, have all said these accounts are pretty accurate. I think there are quite a few people here who know of some sort of professional recommendation to the weekend, yet nowhere on the MKP website are there any professional endorsements, nor can anyone produce any signed edorsements. If the registered psychologist in this area I know
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In the interest of clarity, I should point out that the local psychological governing body (what is correct terminology here) is Canadian. I'm unsure of the levels of governance in the US.
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GFTR99, when you say Judges have ordered attendance at these "educational" weekends, are you absolutely sure of this? I've spoken to the complaints director for the psychological governing body, and though their ethics code does not cover the groups themselves, any psychologist who recommends the weekend is in fact endorsing it. Why this is important is because NWTA makes you sign
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While I have my concerns about either of the groups. I must mention that I know of 4-5 women in the group (2 of which are immediate family), and I have never heard any of them refer to themselves as a bitch. Even if they did, I would want to know the entire context of the statement.
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What Mr. Burke fails to reveal is that he and his research partners are admitted members of the MKP. Therefore the research should be considered biased. Please see my earlier post at the beginning of this page describing my interpretation of Mr. Burke's entire dissertation.
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"If a professional refers someone in an official capacity, why is it that no one is willing to come forward with a signed and dated referral recommending the NWTA?" I should clarify, I meant signed and dated endorsement not referral. It's amazing how impaired your judghement is after a 17 hour day.
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Joe1 wrote "I echo that the ManKind project can be dangerous. If it is taken by somebody who is not psychologically fit or in serious therapy. It can be destructive and should not be taken by people in this situation." Exactly why I feel open recruitment by this group is wrong. As far as a licensed therapist promoting this weekend, I have absolutley no problem with it provided the
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A paper published by a serving member of an organization extolling its virtues is obviously not something I would consider credible.
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Please understand that I am NOT a trained psychologist nor have any experience other than my own research, but Burke's paper has a couple of items I would like to point out (I'm not done checking refs yet or double checking). Several times in the text it mentions that individuals who have had previous experience with 12 step programs responding favorably to the weekends, then in the met
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I should point out that my father-inlaw has always and still treats me with respect, despite our differences. He and his wife also are genuinely happy together and attribute it to MKP. In their situation it appears to have worked, and I will not meddle without a damn good reason. For all the issues the man is still someone I admire greatly, his life experiences alone reassure me of that. I simply
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Sonsio, Joe1 etc. I was first formally approached a few months ago, I have spent that time reading every available bit of info on this group (and taken notes). In the absence of physical evidence (which can be nither + or -), one must default to personal experiences. When examining the accounts I've noted several recurring patterns, themes and manipulations, these then formed the basis of my
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For the last year or so, a member of my family (in-laws) has seemed to focus alot on all the negative aspects of my career etc. I chalked it up to concern at first, but then his wife paid for my wife and her sister to attend something called woman within weekend. It seemed harmless enough, of course at the graduation ceremony I was literally circled by 4 husbands extolling the virtues of the NWTA
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