Level 1 is quite benign, a bit like a supermarket 'loss leader.' But once sucked in persuasive pressure is then applied to do levels 2, then 3, then 4, etc., up to level 8. From levels 3 onwards is when the opportunities for sex becomes available in the so-called Room of Love ("barriers are available if you want"). But at lower levels sex can and does take place in the
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Smile! You've got cancer Cancer is not a problem or an illness – it's a gift. Or so Barbara Ehrenreich was told repeatedly after her diagnosis. But the positive thinkers are wrong, she says: sugar-coating illnesses can exact a dreadful cost. If you had asked me, just before the diagnosis of cancer, whether I was an optimist or a pessimist, I would have been hard-pressed to ans
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I'm curious about the rule of "no sex with initiates for at least 6 months." The corollary being that sex is OK between the members of the leadership team and older initiates at any time. But I've met similar rules with other straight LGATs including tantra groups, that is with mixed gender LGATs, so such a rule is not unusual. But I'm curious as to why there shoul
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WTG1999 - if you wish to make a point then 1/ please do not use cult-speak the meaning of which only you understand, 2/ check your grammar and spelling before posting (Word can do that), and 3/ be objective. As it is your subjective and emotive diatribe is a waste of space. Actually your contributions do achieve one good thing (only one) - with each new post the thread about MKP keeps rising t
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QuoteWTG1999...Sad...True sadness sweeps over as I feel small mind only allowing such a distorted view of a fantastic Healing Process... Did You ever attend a training?...A true New Warrior Training Weekend?... If so and you had some of these ?horror's? performed on you, that is my sadness...for you. My Experiance was one of Awared Grace and BeautyWalk Co-Connection...10 years ago. So much
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As stated already, some men in MKP go through the rebirthing, or "birth canal" process, as they call it most likely to avoid the APA ruling against it and the two states what have outlawed it. However, ALL men in MKP are reborn into the organization. All men go through another rebirthing process. The trust walk symbolizes a rebirth in MKP. Prior to this event the man is instructed
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MKP IS about seeking gay sex from initiates ... And rememver that MKP also runs a 'boys for men' programme ... This is one report of an MKP leader seeking sex from an initiate; ========== At the NWTA, I left the sweat lodge half way. I didn't like it. It was too hot and I couldn't breathe. I don't know what happened after I left, if there was any ordered fond
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Cock Talk Preparation Empowering Intent: Get energy up as New Brothers support each other having some outrageous fun in throwing off shame and social inhibitions. They also get effortlessly undressed for Cocktalk. Energy Embodiment: We get playful with wild abandon, even totally silly yet with sober intention. We can hold both energies. Materials: ___ Dance music: tape or CD
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Here is proof that GUTS and carpet work are dangerous psychotherapy. Patricia Clason, founder of Taking It Lightly and the Renewal Weekend for sexual abuse survivors, co-founder of Vets Journey Home (formerly the Bamboo Bridge) weekend for military veterans, and Grandmother of the New Warrior Training Adventure, will be presenting an intensive workshop on: Emotional Process Work - How to b
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Group Process and the New Warrior Initiation By David Quigley "The Alchemical Hypnotherapy Training with David Quigley is simply the best training for group process facilitation I have found. I recommend it to every New Warrior leader." Bill Wich, New Warrior Leader The New Warrior initiation is a three day weekend workshop that empowers men to reclaim their lost masculi
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One of the points made during the press conference with the victims - now grown up - but still traumatised from their personal experiences - was that the abuse and denial was deeply rooted in the Catholic Church. Someone then asked what about the rest of Ireland, and the North of Ireland. And the reply was that the pattern of abuse must have been the same since it is the same church and religious
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The Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse was established in 2000 with functions including the investigation of abuse of children in institutions in the State. It was dependent on people giving evidence which they did in large numbers. The Commission expresses its gratitude to all those who participated and contributed with their testimony and documents. The witnesses who came to the Confide
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Irish Catholic Church accused of abuse cover-up Four archbishops turned a blind eye to abuse A damning report into clerical child abuse in the Dublin archdiocese has criticised the Catholic Church hierarchy for covering up the abuse. The report investigated how Church and state authorities handled allegations of child abuse against 46 priests. It found that the Church placed
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Child abuse victims of Irish clergy to be paid £145million The Catholic Christian Brothers today promised £145million in cash and land in compensation to victims of child abuse by Irish clergy. It comes six months after the Ryan Report exposed the sexual and physical abuse of tens of thousands of children in Catholic institutions over six decades. The report, which took nine years to
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Thank you for the posting. I read the BBC article - however its a shame the formatting got lost. Maybe you could repost the text here? Meanwhile this might be of help: Take care ... ST
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HAI has reportedly become a not-for-profit organisation with the status of a charity. It still charges high rates for its weekend workshops. Since it is a charity its finances should be available for public inspection. Maybe someone can upload some details here. ST.
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Please sign this petition: We the undersigned believe that any extra money from the Religious Orders should be used solely to benefit former residents of all of the Institutions for medical, dental and other welfare purposes. Reading the comments below is also instructive. The Catholic Church is a CULT and an abusive one. ST
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A support organisation for those brought up in Irish institutions can be found at: ST
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It is probably not known that the Irish and British Governments shipped out thousands of children to Australia, Canada, Rhodesia, etc., in the early to late 1900s. Many of these kids were deliberately separated from their parents and siblings, and most were sent to work as slave labour on farms or as domestic servants. Many were told that their parents were dead or didn't want them - when in
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Quotefloatingfreebear i do understand that there is a lot of hurt, pain, & emotion surrounding many who attended MKP weekends. It wasn't for them. One of thre BIG problems with LGATs is that in the ever increasing search for paying punters pre-selection and vetting is not an issue. If MKP is as benign as ffb implies then how come guys are even reporting negative experiences let a
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Exposing MKP from a Christian point of view:
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... continued On one hand I was sympathetic of him. He was trying to do something to stop what he was doing, and felt was wrong. I had been in ACOA groups with people who admitted they were not being good to their children, and could find some compassion for them in at least making an effort to try to correct for it. On the other hand, I truly was angry toward him for what he was d
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Here's another report: Newsgroups: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, soc.men, alt.support.ex-cult, alt.self-esteem, uk.people.support.mental-health Date: 20 Feb 2007 10:35:55 -0800 Local: Tues, Feb 20 2007 6:35 pm Subject: Mankind Project 'New Warrior Training' weekend - 2 It is an account of my experience of a portion of a "New Warrior Adventure Weekend." I hav
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If anyone is in any doubt that MKP does not run benign healing retreats here's one report: Newsgroups: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, soc.men, alt.support.ex-cult, alt.self-esteem, uk.people.support.mental-health Date: 20 Feb 2007 10:27:48 -0800 Local: Tues, Feb 20 2007 6:27 pm Subject: Mankind Project 'New Warrior Training' weekend - 1 I went to a Mankind Project '
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QuoterrmoderatorTo whom it may concern: But based upon the group's history of bad press and complaints I would warn anyone considering MKP to beware. Yet more reasons to give this abusive cult a wide miss is from the comments here: "MKP's NWTA and subsequent training is amateur in its Jungian therapy approach. The leaders of the weekend tend to be relatively intelligent
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What's this crap from floatingfreebear. That's what I find curious - MKP claims to be a bonafide organisation yet its members hide behind pseudo-Native American names. The Rajneesh Osho cult do exactly the same using pseudo-Indian (Asian) names. ST
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Quote Anyone have the WAIVER that MKP makes people sign before they attend their seminars, so we can post it in the thread? Try asking on the 'ex_MKP 'Yahoo Group at: I believe that many of the manuals and documents are available there. ST
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Thank you. Re: MKP and their statement: QuoteThe Anticult [74.125.155.132] It seems to be a categoric statement of their position of non-involvment with JAR-type sweat lodges and that safety is their priority. Strange that they should block it. What are they hiding or ashamed of? Why have they removed it? Anyway it says (in part): "There is no fasting prior to the sweat, and
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QuoteThe Anticult New Warrior Training Adventure® is trying to do some serious PR to distance themselves from James Ray, like everyone else in the New Age and LGAT business. When I tried to access this page I got: Access denied -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are not authorized to access this page. -------------------------------
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QuoteThe AnticultJames Ray and others were just using the appearance of sacred traditions, to shield their real agenda, which is one of deep group influence and indoctrination. Just like Mankind Project then...
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