Hi Gang : I had the link wrong..missed a character or something. Try this :
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yup!
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and so it continues... the internet purchases on my bank account are made from the following fictitous email address << monet@cg.yu >> This group's leader is known for her silly childlike games... to return the devotees to a state of childlike innocence, closer to God. Maybe that email address means &q
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Mikinos: Great that you have the discernment to do background checking for yourself prior to attending LE. Unfortunately, my experience matches that of Coz. I reeally tried to help someone, well more than one person. Different cults, same idea. You could arrange an intervention. I looked into that. To maximize success, you need the involvement of a number of his family or other loved
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Hi Dervish, I've only been told "Kalindi had incredible God experiences when she was in ISKCON" Also told that the MOL mythology is that "Kalindi and David Swanson spent two years lying prostrate in the woods crying for God to come to them. Then God came to them in the spirit form of Lord Gourasana, and gradually over time spent more and more time in David Swanson'
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QuoteMTGrizzlyThe first post in this thread brought back old memories.......... They, too, said it was my fault - without even knowing anything about the group. This pattern continued, ..........saying I was "too controlling" and I should let her do her own thing. It amazed me, these people had no idea what they were talking about.......I started writing about the group and sharing my w
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Hi again antipath... FYI.. another one. Yes, the partner remaining in the group has the deeper problems to untangle from involvement. so sad. :(
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One woman left ISKCON and founded her own cult w/ her (now deceased) husband. "Miracle of Love" Founded by David Swanson and Carol Seidman - Names changed to Lord Goursana and Kalindi La Gourasana (have to sing her name), later along came "Lady Gayle" Many teachings of that group are directly from ISKCON. The writings are almost directly plagarised from ISKCON, but usin
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The Wellspring website is informative and helpful. I've recomended the link to a number of people. I have never been. Reading through their web site, it looks like a wonderful educational and supportive place for peaceful recovery. IMHO, Wellsping has a variety of appropriate experts, peaceful nondistracting environment, access to others for support, ample free time to walk outdoors, e
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That's right! Corboy, your writings about 'group sex in cults' are no longer available... were very well written about the neurological changes caused by such disorientation. Wished i'd saved it for my own reference.
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.... until he reincarnates under another name.... please forgive my cynicism :?
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IMHO :
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And how about a counter suit for false advertising, financial fleecing and misrepresentation?
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QuoteantipathworkThis kind of forums and sites like the Rick Ross site, in my opinion, must be used as a tool to compel authorities, specially those involved in health issues, to warn people about the risks and consequences derived from the so called "alternative psychotherapy" ..............to stop these unscrupulous people from messing around with people's minds and to demand all
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Yup. The goal always is to keep the focus and money coming to the leaders. How to frame every outward event so it twists to support further involvement in the Program/Forum/Mission/Movement.... whatever. Compassion goes something like this : "Pain comes from lack of connection to one's inner divinity. When you are fully enlightened you will feel no pain. Come to our next leve
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Hi.. Touchy topic - no pun intended - yes, many groups have their members confess their deepest pains, etc. Then the group turns around and repeats the same childhood manipulation in a covert fashion. Because it is familiar to the person's psyche, they go along with it without even realizing that their confusion is because they are being abused. And yes, as mentioned elsewhere, often
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QuoteDelphina_9Lucretia and I apparently had similar experiences with life changes, ........... I was warned in the beginning however that these immense changes would likely occur in my life. That my relationships may change, I would choose different ways of being with friends, and interests would change as well. So when these changes happened... I knew I was on the right track!.......... Als
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They ALL work the same way ... Come together to meditate together for World Peace.. we must have our numbers (of cour$e participants) high to influence planetary consciousness. Come to the Forum, The Intensive, the Revival and bring as many as possible to connect to the accurate possibilities enlightenment inner godliness at this vulnerable time of history. gimmeee a break. Let's
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So sorry to hear that. It hurts. Same wolf. Different Coat (er... cult) You will survive. And thrive. It takes time. Despite your very real concern, your wife may take a long time before she acknowledges what happened to her. Your concern about her being manipulated must be as great, if not more so, than your own loss. sigh.
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The same applies for any cultic group, not only Landmark. I've remained friends with some from the group that I'd left ages ago. Some of my family still in that group. Other friends guru-hopped to diff't groups. There is a limit to the depth of conversation that we have. Naturally, they consider me to be 'lost'. And I consider them the same way. Still, we dis
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That is sick Your analogy to the Trojan horse is great
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There is a special section on the AFF website to help those who are researching coercive persuasion / thought reform/ cultic recruitment. They can provide the various appropriate references for your research paper. This is a great topic for you to bring to the attention of your classmates! These groups are so successful partially because the general public denies the existence of their eff
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Hi Jojo, You are sweet. The kids you care for will be fortunate. I don't "put up" the kids/ young adults who find their way to my place. Wellspring is the best place for that! Am still doing my recovery process, and learning to be a material girl. Will probably be a lifelong process. The grapevine passes my phone # along sometimes (I have a few 'nieces' and &
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YES! I agree. All so insidious. Thinking for oneself is increasingly UNpopular. That's why I raised my children without televsion (you can imagine the domestic complaints about THAT!). We did rent flicks, have a computer and also video games.....oh well, cannot be perfect. There was a daily after school battle for the newspaper. Now grown, they come home from college and post-coll
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Hi JoAnne, Sorry to hear about your friend. How painful. Yes, most of the 20-something and 30-something kids in my parents' group either become true devotees, or strung out on other substances to hide from their confusion. so so sad. Some of them find their ways to my house, 2000 miles away from the cult-meca in the USA; they come here for a sense of 'normalcy' (whatEVER tha
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Hi Escapee and Jewels : I just watched a video from last AFF conference about your background. OUCH! :( You are incredible to be moving forward and doing your lives. As functional as you now are, and what you've already overcome, you really have the ability to create wonderful lives for yourselves. Congratulations on seeking help. And my hat is off to you for your courage a
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Hi Again Nativeflower, Yes, be patient for yourself. it's good you are seeking help - good for you finding this board! Tx for the compliment, but I'm just someone who was blesssed/cursed to have my life totally crushed by cults. Raised in one, walked away (w/o specialty therapy) 16 yrs ago, then spent another relationship w/ a high level cultee of another group. sigh. As
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All of the above applies to other types of celebritites also. In my own life, I've been close to this use of various types of celebrities in two cults. I know of various corporate celebrities, inventors, scientists, etc who have been hailed within their various cults, as validation for members' belonging. Some of these celebrities I have known personally. IMHO, they are kind,
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Right, Green : And indigenous peoples in China, India, Africa consider Christianity to be mythology. And many Christians consider the Islam to be mythology. and on and on and on. It's not the belief system, mythology vs scripture, that makes a cult. It's the 'corporate structure' that defines a cult.
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