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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteformerimpactgradQuoteboonetahoeI'm comfortable with my own level of research into psychology and heuristics (and the education/study I've conducted) and I'm comfortable with the level of psychological oversight into the LGAT with which I'm associated. I rather doubt that a debate with you regarding my study or qualifications will yield much in the way of mutual enlight
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteboonetahoeI'm comfortable with my own level of research into psychology and heuristics (and the education/study I've conducted) and I'm comfortable with the level of psychological oversight into the LGAT with which I'm associated. I rather doubt that a debate with you regarding my study or qualifications will yield much in the way of mutual enlightenment (regardless of
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteboonetahoeI don't think anyone has ever thought about having trainers "pretend to be graduates." There are thousands and thousands off GLF graduates who would speak glowingly of the training and be willing to be filmed. The video clips weren't produced by Great Life, they were made (and published on YouTube) by an independent company composed of graduates. GLF had no cont
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Yes Ex, attending Impact and TIT definitely messed with my spirituality. I was not raised in any specific religion but I attended many while growing up. For most of my life I believed that "finding God" was the most important thing that I could be doing. I was an active member of the LDS church when I began attending Impact and as I became more involved at Impact, I became less invol
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteboonetahoeOkay, moving back to the Impact topic, I have a question: Has anyone else been exposed to the "Hans is the Fourth Son of God" piece of purported Impact doctrine? Perhaps this has already been covered on this thread somewhere else, but I wondered if anyone here had been "inner circle" enough to have heard that from the family. I'd rather not explain
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteboonetahoeTrickery just isn't necessary. These peoples' lives and the training stand for themselves. If these things stand for themselves then why are there so many people on this forum who have attended the trainings and dispute your beliefs? Also, maybe JJ should talk to Sally about what she is and is not allowed to talk about. Obviously, I'm not the only one that h
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteboonetahoeA little late for a qualified retraction. . . I doubt JJ will feel any better, now, about being accussed publicly as a child abuser. That's hardly a retraction and I don't care at all about JJ's feelings. I mentioned in my first reference that JJ was fired because Sally believed him to be a pedophile. That's not the same as saying the JJ is a pedophile, alt
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteImpacted Jayson, Sweetheart, you are such an obvious fraud. We point out your videos by your current employees and "trainers" pretending to be graduates of the Harmony/Great Life training are false, deceptive and misleading, and you respond about how they make great carrot cake, or are "licensed," or are in committed relationships (not denying that that relatio
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Hey Boonetahoe, Why didn't you mention JJ Lybert? Long time Impact trainer who was let go because Sally suspected that he was molesting his daughter. You know Sally, never could keep a secret...
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteboonetahoeQuoteformerimpactgradFind a post where I have personally attacked you or someone else. I have vehemently attacked arguments but my guess is that you would have a hard time actually finding a post where I have personally attacked anyone. Unless you're referring to my "20 pieces of silver" statement which I believe is quite accurate since your involvement with recrui
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteexImpact5) To be fair, I'll challenge Former and Ex to say if looking back on it all, they can find ANY thing of value in all their training experiences. My answer to this is a resounding no. I suppose I may learn something about self preservation and security if someone broke into my house and robbed me. I may also learn to deal with intense personal feelings if my child was murder
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Find a post where I have personally attacked you or someone else. I have vehemently attacked arguments but my guess is that you would have a hard time actually finding a post where I have personally attacked anyone. Unless you're referring to my "20 pieces of silver" statement which I believe is quite accurate since your involvement with recruitment in LGATs is very much like sel
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Its always about the other person isn't it boonetahoe. You've spent so much time blaming us and trying to pin stuff on us that one might reasonably assume that you don't really buy into the whole accountability principle. I love LGAT hypocrisy, its always the same from your type...
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
It wouldn't surprise me if he was being blocked from the forum for attempting to recruit for Great Life. His position within the LGAT makes his first post and several since obvious attempts at using the forum to recruit. Since that is a direct violation of forum rules, he is probably no longer being allowed to post by the moderators.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
The videos were pretty much what I expected. Its funny seeing JJ Lybert talking about Great Life. He was an Impact trainer for a VERY long time and a former son in law of Hans and Sally Berger. I guess he'll talk up any company that gives him a job, what a loser.
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
It looks like another chapter in the ongoing saga of psycho trainees is coming to a close. If anyone hasn't been reading the "boonetahoe" pages, he was a great study in the harmful effects of LGAT trainings. He was repeatedly dishonest and consistently critical of anyone who opposed LGAT's but he legitimately believed that he was neutral and that he was being completely stra
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
I should have stated that differently. Maybe, are you saying that boonetahoe is actually Jayson Orvis? Does that look better?
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Mr. Orvis? Are you saying that boonetahoe is actually Jayson Orvis?
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Friends, former LGAT trainees, current LGAT trainees and leaders, lend me your ears; I have come to bury Boonetahoe, not to praise him; Apparently the perceived good that LGAT's do lives after them, while the evil is oft interred with the bones, So let it be with Boonetahoe... The noble Boonetahoe hath told you that he is honest, if it is so then I have committed a grievous fault, and
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Friends, former LGAT trainees, current LGAT trainees and leaders, lend me your ears; I have come to bury Boonetahoe, not to praise him; Apparently the perceived good that LGAT's do lives after them, while the evil is oft interred with the bones, So let it be with Boonetahoe... The noble Boonetahoe hath told you that he is honest, if it is so then I have committed a grievous fault, and
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Quoteboonetahoe"Blue Pill’s LGAT design, here we go! 1. It would be a clearly defined NOT FOR PROFIT financial structure. No dividends, no shady financial structures. Accounts would be posted in black and white on the company website every quarter for all to see. Investment in developing the business is fine as long as it is in line with the non profit structure. 2. The board to be f
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteboonetahoeQuoteformerimpactgradQuoteboonetahoe What am I missing here? Probably nothing you're willing to see right now. You made me laugh today boonetahoe, thanks! Do you have anything substantial to contribute to the forum or are you just attempting to be "mysterious" instead of answering our questions?
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteboonetahoeI believe this is what as known as a "no win" situation. How is it a "no win" situation? You have made grand claims without evidence that are completely contrary to our own experience. You have made claims about Great Life that apparently aren't true as well. Do you have anything truthful or meaningful to add to the forum? Are you attempting to call us
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Boonetahoe, Didn't you mention earlier that Great Life posted their financial information for all to see? If so, where can I find it? You have mentioned the "non-profit" thing a few times. Many small non-profits act merely as tax shelters for dishonest owners. If I can track the cash from your financials then hopefully I can determine if Great Life is a true non-profit or an
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
You were not clear at all. Your first post was on a different thread so many readers did not even know that it existed and contrary to your early statements, being affiliated with Great Life is hardly the same as being "way out" of the Impact trainings. Great Life seems like Impact Jr to me.
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Quoteboonetahoe 3. While I have seen the human frailties of Hans and Sally Berger, and while I can see that they are probably cranks and maybe even criminals, the net result of their involvement in my life has been overwhelmingly positive. I want nothing to do with them, but I haven't been pushed into such a corner that my own self-image requires that I villify them. They can remain com
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteboonetahoeGreat Life Foundation (by the way) doesn't sell CDs and gets an annual license each year from both BMI and ASCAP to play the music in the training room. Sorry to disappoint. . . Its good to know that Harmony/Visionworks/Greatlife is only guilty of SOME types of dishonesty, hypocrisy and manipulation. I feel so much better about the organization...
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
I was not aware of Boonetahoe's relationship to Greatlife but the again boonetahoe insists that he has been completely honest, forthcoming and moderate which means that he must have disclosed that at some point right?
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Boonetahoe, You've been called out by two people on this board already who have accused you of being deceptive in an effort to manipulate the thread. You don't know what we're talking about because you are incapable of looking at your posts objectively. Like most LGAT drones you attempt to rationalize your actions to avoid taking responsibility and thus preserve the erroneous
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
I love that Boonetahoe still considers himself a "moderate"! Do you have anything of substance to contribute or are you still just spewing garbage without providing the evidence that you claim to have gathered?
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