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15 years ago
formerimpactgrad
So about 2 years ago I heard something really funny from a group of people who were/are still involved with the Impact Trainings. Apparently a grad and former trainer, Nicole Sherman, was made an executive VP of AmericanWest Bancorpration and they were going to penetrate the Utah market by buying Farwest Bank (which they did) then employing a bunch of Impacters with banking experience in various
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15 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Glaucon, Manipulation of trainee language starts almost immediately in the Impact Trainings and is one of the first steps in the conditioning process. As far as the "My Vision of a Healed World" is concerned, I believe those are written on the last day of Quest but to be fair they have the trainees write stuff like that all the time. The difficult thing with the "My Vision..
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15 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Catbus, In response to your earlier questions here is a very rough (and unfortunately short) schedule for Quest and Summit that should line up with your wife's manic-depressive mood swings: Quest: Day 1 - The trainees spend the entire day getting chewed out. There are several processes but the end result of each one is that the group and certain individuals get chewed out over and
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15 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Catbus, I'll respond in more detail later but I can empathize... In case anyone is interested, this is the email address for "Get Gephardt", GEPHARDT@kutv2.com. Maybe they would be willing to investigate Impact if they got bombed with a bunch of requests.
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15 years ago
formerimpactgrad
jk.genesis, Welcome to the thread. Best of luck with your bf, the "angel cards" were just starting to make their way into the group's social structure when I left (For those who don't know, "angel cards" are exactly the same as tarot cards but they have pictures of angels, fairies, etc on them instead of the somewhat grim tarot pictures). Your last line real
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15 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Slash, Best of luck with your friend. Hopefully you can help remove them from the situation. Regardless, if you have inoculated yourself from potential enrollment then I suppose the thread is doing its job. Too Much, My condolences and best wishes. I bought into Impact briefly but stayed much longer due to family influences. Knowing that I would be cut off if I separated myself from I
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Apparently my criticisms of hopeful soul's posts has made me a shoulder to cry on for other people on the board. I have received private messages complaining about the preachyness, lack of direction and general pointlessness of her posts in the past but I thought this one was particularly funny so I thought I would post it, while still maintaining the anonymity of the sender (who I have nev
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
This link outlines the three core trainings. The summaries are a bit short but it should give you some decent information. Best of Luck!
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
It looks like the Salt Lake Tribune wrote an article on the Impact/Harmony break up that documents accusations of faulty accounting and fraud committed by Hans Berger. I've copied the article and its reference information: THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE Harmony Grads Sue Institute Founders, Say Money Stolen Author(s): PEGGY FLETCHER STACK and STEPHEN HUNT THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE Date: Sep
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
I know I've mentioned this experience once before but I thought it was worth bringing up again. My favorite demonstration of Hans' character came when he and Sally called an emergency, mandatory TIT 3 meeting where Hans tried to make everyone sign up for Nuskin (For anyone who may not know, nuskin is a multilevel marketing company that sells skin care products). Obviously all of the T
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuotedramamamaI want to share the email I sent to her this morning. I tried to be very non judgemental and loving. Let me know what you think... "Hey! I just wanted to check in with you to see how your first night went. How do you feel about things? I think it's important, when learning new things, to trust your instincts and your feelings. Don't let anyone tell you ho
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Welcome back army. I agree with both of your points. Yes "The Secret" is garbage and yes Hopeful Soul's posts are pointless and detract from the credibility of the thread.
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteHearts5683I appreciate all of your responses and wish you luck. Thank you for your information. The training works for me. I enjoy staffing and enjoyed my trainings. I can't tell if in the future things will go sour but I am keeping an open and positive mind. :) Have a great day! ~Hearts I guess the bottom line hearts is that the training is systematically designed to manip
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteImpacted>>It's kinda like they're driving a car they know was stolen by someone, who stole it from someone else, who stole it from someone else, who took some parts from another stolen car and welded them on, and put a gloss of new paint on it -- and they actively do not want to know, or research, who any of the car they are driving really belongs to. Their desire to keep the
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
This forum provides an interesting sounding board for people who have been involved with LGAT's. Since most LGAT's, Impact in particularly, have a history of being very litigious (or at least threatening to be) it can be difficult for people who feel they have been harmed to express their feelings and meet others who feel the same way. While I don't agree with everything that is
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
It looks like Hearts is nothing more than the typical Impact apologist. I guess beliefs don't have to make sense or produce promised results and Hans' and Sally's continued dishonesty doesn't disqualify them from teaching a seminar on integrity.
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteHearts5683Is it a possibility to you that maybe just being open and positive (whether going through the trainings or not) makes life easier? Of course but being open and positive has nothing to do with the effectiveness of the Impact Trainings or the validity of the Law of Attraction. Can you address the specific questions that have been asked, do you find them invalid for some reason? F
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Since the Secret is such a big part of Impact Theology I thought I'd put my favorite Secret link on this site. It sums up my thoughts on the Law of Attraction. - It looks like my original link didn't work. Here's the pointer to the Rick Ross thread where I found it. It looks like you can still access the video from there: Part 2 is my favorite
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
The bottom line Hearts is that these extreme examples demonstrate the flaws in your logic. If Hans and Sally's interactions with other people don't matter to you then why should anyone else's interactions with other people matter to you? If the law of attraction works then surely there must be some explanation for genocide, child molestation and every other unspeakable evil that
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
You're amusing Hearts. Just about everyone graduates from Lift-Off thinking they had a life changing experience. Wait a couple of years and see if you or your "buddies" are any better off. I spent a lot of time around the Impact Trainings and I saw a lot of people come and go. Most left after the first series and experienced little to no long term change (I think they were the
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteHearts5683Again, not sure when you guys went to Impact but apparently they have changed the processes since then. :) I have spoken to people who have been through in the last few months and the processes have not experienced any kind of substantial change. The fact that you missed the whole "People don't change" line in Summit would seem to indicate that you probably weren
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Wow Hearts, did you actually go through Summit or are you making all of this up? "People Don't Change" is one of the HUGE themes that Pamela pushes when introducing people to their stretches. Later on Impact introduces the term "shifting" to their trainees. Apparently "people don't change" but they do shift, I guess there is supposed to be a difference.
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
It has been awhile since I've been on the forum but its nice to know that Hopeful Soul is still proselytizing with a complete lack of objectivity. I think I would have had a hard time sleeping tonight if I had read something rooted in actual thought. I completely agree that Impact provides a safe haven for the abusers. The idea that a person who is prone to sexual indiscretion should be
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
Wow, I must have missed my invitation to the all grad party...
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteboonetahoeFor example, I've never seen a post on this forum from a graduate (or a friend of a graduate) of Great Life Foundation that was critical of the training. All the critics ("the peanut gallery" I like to call them) are graduates or disaffected friends and family of graduates from entirely different trainings. Do you include Harmony grads in the set of people qualifi
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteOttsQuoteformerimpactgrad. Since every LGAT seems to draw on much of what is taught in Landmark, Lifespring and EST there is no need to the measure results of each one individually when the processes themselves are in question and have been proven harmful. This is an incredibly ridiculous suggestion. If one clothing company is gound to be using overseas child labor, do we just assume that
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
I know Impact openly supported a "Life Coach" named Kimile Levelle a few years back. I think they ended up giving her the boot when they realized the potential liability but for awhile Kimile was really being pushed hard. Apparently they thought Kimile was "in tune" enough that they admitted her to TIT 3 before she had taken the other TIT trainings. I have no way of knowing
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteOttsModerator you keep asking for proof that discovery bears long term results. Why dont you show me a specific report talking about Discovery's (not some other seminar that has nothing to do with discovery) negative effect on its participants and then I will give you the same credence that you demand of those who disagree with you. Until such a study is revealed then this is all biased
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16 years ago
formerimpactgrad
QuoteboonetahoeQuoteBoone, Is there any reason why you think you should have ANY credibility when posting in this forum? You have been consistently dishonest and deceptive... You lost me. I'm not sure what the glaring dishonesty is supposed to be. I wonder if you're not "straining at a gnat" here. In any case, I'll tell you about the anecdotal evidence I witn
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