rrmoderator QuoteYou seem to be here as an apologist for MKP and acting in a manner that can be seen as a message board "troll." Go back and read my posts... There are several things that MKP does as an organization that I wholeheartedly disagree with. I was under the impression that this was an open forum, with room for discussion on both sides of the issue. Apparently, I was wr
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Brad QuoteMany of us are very angry. I am sure many are angry at the insinuation that we don't want to see the facts as you put them. Rather judge your own experience and let others judge their own experiences. I hear that you are angry, and I have read the forum on the suicides - my point was never to say that you are not justified, nor that you are wrong for your experiences. My point h
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QuoteSo far from my husbands NWTA 2005 in sept 3 more have quit from his I group plus my husband And so far from my February 2005 NWTA, NO men have quit I-Group that started it - two chose not to start it. Note the word "chose." Some men drive an hour to come to I-Group. What's your point?
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QuoteI havent seen many happy wives! And if they were here, you would not see them, because you don't WANT to see them.
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Ginah QuoteOr...... nobody felt that it was significant enough to reply to? Well, thank you, Ginah. Coming from someone as obviously open-minded as yourself, I'll take that as a compliment. Ginah QuoteAre you shaming/guilting this man? I thought that was not the MKP way? Not at all! I am simply stating that men being nude in front of each other is still men being nude in front of ea
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I'm writing this post to point out to you that, while you always thank "anti-MKPers" for their posts, you never thank me for mine. In fact, my last was not even replied to by any of you. Normally, in a debate, when the opposite side has no comeback, it's a win! :wink: It is very easy to look at only one side of things - the side you want to look at. It is much more diffic
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Witness: Thank you for our post. I have a few things to mention in regard to it. First of all (and my judgement is that you know this) you are completely out of integrity with your agreement that you signed for the MKP weekend. My sense is that, while a few men may have chosen to talk to their SO's about their experiences (including me) VERY few have chosen to post them on a public for
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Ivy said: "We Virtually know much about the MKP here, you don't have to have gone threw it to know about it!" and "Do you think the I groups would let you come over to their house, if you did not belong to the MKP anymore?" Well, if you DID know that much about MKP, then you would know that once a man goes through the weekend, he is ALWAYS a member of MKP and
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Ivy, Your post is full of what I call "judgements" - things that you believe to be true or you perceive a certain way about me OR MKP, that may or may not be that way in actuality. There is very little actual data. I cannot and will not defend myself or MKP against judgements. All I can do is relay my experiences. If you'd like, you can see my response to What2Do's post
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What2Do: I hear what you are saying in your posting, and I have a judgement that no matter what I say, it will not change your mind. AND I am not attached to changing your mind. So I will address your post in the hopes of educating others that may read it. I'm sad to hear that the incident your husband experienced turned him off of MKP. There are so many good things that can come out o
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What2Do, you wrote: "Do you really think you know what goes on at every NWTA weekend?" Hmm... Let's think about that for a minute. I'm a MAN, I have personally spoken with and am in contact with conservatively 200 men in MKP including my brother (who also went though), I have been through and staffed a weekend, and been to 4 graduations. I think I'm probably a bit more
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HelpUs... I was referred to the weekend by a respected psychotherapist who's husband is an MKP member. I STILL did my research - as much as possible. My first thought was, is it a cult? Through my research I felt confident that it was not - and I am glad I made the right decision. Of course people are going to research something like that. I research everything my doctors, therapists,
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Oh, What2Do, I forgot to address your carpooling question. I did not carpool - I went by myself. One of the men who left the weekend early I staffed HAD carpooled - we had a staff member drive him home. Please give me your rebuttal for that one. Thanks
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What2Do - If you noticed, I did not call you a liar. All I said was that I have been in at least 10 sweats and never once did anyone physically touch anyone else - it's not part of the deal. Admittedly, I could have left out the "horse crap" reference - thank you for calling me on that. And yes, I have spoken directly with, let's just be conservative and say 100 including m
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I had told my friend about MKP, since I have been through the weekend, and he was researching online, and found this site. It never fails to amaze me how the unknown can create such utter nonsense. My weekend changed my life so much for the better. I have learned to take the time to slow down, smell the roses, be a wonderful father and partner, and enjoy life to the fullest. I have learned to
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