QuotecaligariQuoteelenaQuotecaligari I'm surprised that hynosis isn't brought up more in discussing Landmark and it's methods, particularly in journalistic articles. It's possible to discount brainwashing since it's a term that loosely used and often not exact. It's original meaning was though reform through physically coerced methods like the North Korean origins.
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Quotesonnie_deeIt doesn't surprise me at all about them changing the page, they will get rid of anything that may bring negative publicity and while the Charla Mack herself didn't do wrong, the fact that she murdered by one of their senior participants/seminar leaders would definitly lead to alot of bad publicity. You mean "...she *was* murdered by one...." It doe
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QuoteVic-LucQuoteMarkusWelchQuotenutrinoThe sad truth is that it may have gotten embedded deep in some elements of Washington and Neo-Conservative culture... many have noted strage and telling simiarities between Donald Rumsfeld's utterifications and Wernerspeak... a downrtight scary parallel... especially with his grossly unrealistic conviction that we would "transform" th
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QuotenutrinoThe sad truth is that it may have gotten embedded deep in some elements of Washington and Neo-Conservative culture... many have noted strage and telling simiarities between Donald Rumsfeld's utterifications and Wernerspeak... a downrtight scary parallel... especially with his grossly unrealistic conviction that we would "transform" the Middle East.... oh but how
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Quoteajinajanhttp://www.linkedin.com/answers/career-education/career-development/CAR_CRD/84922-11516600 QuoteTell me about your experience with Landmark Education. Is it a reputable organization, or simply one among thousands of self-help seminars? If someone has a "LinkedIn" profile, feel free to answer the question with some helpful information and resources to more i
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Sorry about that last post. As an addition to my last post, the process will first include a congressional interest (congrint). To that is what the base/comand has to respond, if I recall correctly.
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QuoteMarkusWelchQuoteajinajanQuoteajinajanLandmark Forum on U.S. government tax dollars ? Skip to Page 11. Do you want your tax dollars paying for Landmark Education advertising ? Picatinny Arsenal Located in New Jersey. Looks like that's where this "Extraordinary Event about the Landmark Forum" is going to be. They already had one on 2 May 2007, the next two are
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QuoteajinajanQuoteajinajanLandmark Forum on U.S. government tax dollars ? Skip to Page 11. Do you want your tax dollars paying for Landmark Education advertising ? Picatinny Arsenal Located in New Jersey. Looks like that's where this "Extraordinary Event about the Landmark Forum" is going to be. They already had one on 2 May 2007, the next two are 13 September 20
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QuoteajinajanQuoteON2 LFQuoteI think it would be great if there was regulation but in reality I can't ever see groups like Landmark ever agreeing to this. Really for regulation to ever work, goverments would have to do the regulating and make the applicable laws and consequences of companies breaking them. Agree with you totally but I can't imagine landmark ever subjecting itself to
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QuoteajinajanLandmark Drops Copyright Infringement Subpoenas On Google And Anonymous Critic Landmark sought a subpoena to find out who posted hidden camera footage from an event held by the French branch of the organization. By K.C. Jones InformationWeek Dec 1, 2006 04:19 PM QuoteA self-help group has dropped its attempts to claim copyright infringement and identify an anonym
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Quotejoe6I just noticed on their About page that DailyMotion is based in France: Maybe these videos will stay up. I'm not certain of that at all. The EU is quite ready to regulate video content on the Internet, with a strong (liberal/PC) arm. It's for your own good, you see.
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Quoteanon0820I have often heard that LGAT's tell people that the judgment they are hearing from others is not a reflection on them. It is that person's interpretation of the criticism of how they see this person. I thought it is a positive thing to hear feedback from someone you are close with. So, if I tell a person (one who attended an LGAT) that they are sending a message that the
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QuotenutrinoMarkus.... there is something flat out wrong with your mind. There is a bizarre literalism to your thought patterns which is sometimes associated with brain injury. I suggest obtaining a psychometric work up to see if you can pinpoint the issue. Your personality structure is generally not one that is comfortable seeking therapy, however I think you would benefit greatly from profess
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QuoteginahQuote6. PERFECT YOUR PERSONAL FOUNDATION.WHEN BOUNDARIES ARE STRONG AND STANDARDS ARE HIGH, PROBLEMS DISAPPEAR. Actually the higher a persons standards are in regards to others actions, thoughts etc, the more likely you are to have problems with people. If you lower your standards of what you believe people should be like, and have tolerance of others actions and thoughts, you will h
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Do you want to explain your comments Nutrino, including this? You said: "you should consider yourself lucky you don't get adjudicated non compos mentis in short order and spend the next 60 days under close observation.... " I invited you to take your political views (I'm sure you have them) to AFL and I suggested I would rip you to shreds. I've since admitted that
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Hi Anon0820, Quoteanon0820QuoteFULLY EMBRACE INTEGRITY. INTEGRITY IS THAT WHICH AFFORDS FLOURISHMENT. I've seen this word - Integrity used as a rule when asked what the course structure and exercise are in the workshops. It is my INTEGRITY and my WORD not to tell anyone about them who hasn't taken the courses. It can ruin the experience. :roll: They've hijacked the 'go
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It's no secret I disagree with you Nutrino. I jumped the gun on this one, not having read your comments completely. I should have considering my remarks (and in any case). I regret having made that mistake and offer you my apologies.
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QuotenutrinoThe snake in the garden of the New Age: the denial of basic distinctions of Good and Evil under the banner of "nonjudgementalism" .... which was never the real deal in the first place... because New Agers ARE intensely judgemental authoritarians under the skin... the only have found more palatable ways to language their authoritarian impulses... The Erhardians got over becau
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QuoteBrad69I agree, Skeptic. So often people who have been through LGATs might do something that is generally regarded as poor manners. But now, to get past taking responsibility for their poor behaviour, they use what they are taught in the LGATS: "That's your interpretation". They say we must change how we interpret the behaviour and then there is no problem. What simplisti
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Ash, Your observations are spot-on. Regards, Markus Welch
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QuotenutrinoWhat I understand all to clearly is that it is possible to label, or categorize certain discussions as off limits because they are "political"... as if that indicates a sacroscant status... ... and I have a firm counterpoint to this assertion... that the "political" isn't such an airtight category, that a multitude of "non-political" issues do impi
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Quoteelena Are you disputing the facts or assertions of the article? Ellen The political discussion itself does not belong here, does it? Perhaps you can start a new thread called 'cults and politics' and I'll be happy to respond, assuming Mr. Ross would allow such a thread to exist on his site. BTW- You are free to correct Nutrino, who seems to have a false impressio
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QuotenutrinoQuoteMarkusWelchI'm not going to debate politics with you here. That is and has been my point Nutrino. You don't appear to be too sharp about taking your own advice. Debating politics is exactly what you have engaged. Do whatever turns you on. I raised the national leadership issue because it is my considered opinion that cult or cult formed dynamics have had a mean
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I'm not going to debate politics with you here. That is and has been my point Nutrino. Start a new thread, or email me, or pm me, or go to AFL. My suggestion *again* is that there are other, perhaps better, venues to promote your political views.
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QuotenutrinoQuoteMarkusWelch Please be careful with the 'bushitler' stuff while you make your 'cults are bad' points. I am in no way equating Bush with Hitler. Nothing here was intended to equate Bush with Hitler. My point was that closed off, self referential, power hungry groups and organizations can make some awfully bad decisions when they loose vital infotrmation an
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QuoteelenaQuotenutrinoOne could expand at length here.... if Wiliam Jefferson Clinton could bring himself to invite Anthony Robbins to the White House as a success coach... and on the right, if the Neo-Cons have had a long standing, if carefully brushed over relationship with Sun Myun Moon's Unification Church... It's much, much worse than a bumbling idiot like Moon in the Right�
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Quotemidonov123 I refer to facts. The earth is approx. 5 billions year old, the time of apparition of man is insigificant compared to that figure. Our sun is only a vary faint star compared to the infinite number of stars and galaxies... This is what I mean by space and time. There is nothing metaphysical here. But this is getting philosophical and it's not the purpose of that threa
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Quotemidonov123 Just a quick note: There is a lot of press that has exposed and critic Scientology for more than a decade now. Despite all the bad press, it keeps growing and finding new high profile supporters (e.g. Tom Cruise). This is something I can hardly understand. Why people believe in weird things? And why people get deceived so easily? Any answer to that? Maybe what ma
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Skeptic, I meant the US Constitution and the debates concerning the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation, and with emphasis on what made the First Amendment. I recommend findlaw.com for some detailed history and I suggest a reading of some of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and Thomas Paine. Best Regards, Markus Welch
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QuoteskepticQuoteMarkusWelch I might add that calls for legislation, while the intent I understand is good, may do more harm than any good. If laws are created against certain forms of speech, those same laws may one day be used against those that initiated them. This is certainly a negative potential consequence for everyone. Liberty requires vigilance. This gets tricky. Is mind contr
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