Quotemidonov123Landmark say they don't use thought reform technology on people, nor do they use brainwashing technology for whatever that means. However, using their own vocabulary, they use a "technology" that leads to a "transformation" of peoples "mind". So I call it a "mind transformation technology" and that is definitely the mark of a cult. Oka
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QuoteestieI gave Myles and Monkeyvomit the benefit of the doubt, and took them at face value, but I gotta admit the thought crossed my mind that a couple of LECies were playing "stump the band." Monkeyvomit just vanished. Myles began by saying he might not have done the Forum if he'd known more, then proceeded to discount everything which was said. You'd think these ~enligh
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QuoterrmoderatorLGAT, which means large group awareness training, that's what groups like Landmark, NXVIM, Lifespring, Sterling, Impact and an assortment of other seminar weekends are frequently called. Another common title is "mass marathon training." See This covers the common features and problems of such trainings. Okay. Thanks.
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QuoteDynamixMyles, if you hear about anyone dropping out during your advanced course, really think about it, okay? Dynamix, I appreciate you taking the time to tell me your story. You have me thinking.
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QuoteelenaThey "care" about your thoughts to the extent that they can use them against you. That they are ~meaningless~ and your life is ~meaningless~ is one way to make you so depressed or more depressed than you were coming in that you'll be eager to sign up for their stupid snake-oil mind cure. Ellen The way I interpreted that the "World is meaningless" routine,
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QuoteskepticAnd that's the power and the danger of LGATs. Ya just can't think straight after being run through one. There's a lot of vocabulary being used here that I am not familiar with. Can you please define "LGATs"?
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Quotesonnie_deeMyles, what is the point of your being on this board, to me it comes across as your going to try and get us all to realise we are wrong in our views about the landmark forum. And I get the feeling that you are going to spout the "if you haven't done it you can't really say much about it theory" Perhaps another example.... do you jump off the cliff to see if
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Quotemidonov123QuoteMylesQuoteNot to mention that he left "did you do est?" out. <sniff, sniff> We just don't get no respect no more. I meant no disrespect. What is "est" and how is "est" related to this topic? ???!!! You don't know about the Landmark/EST connection ??? And you say you have knowledge??? That's nonsense. Educa
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QuotenutrinoThe great looming canard is whether an organization is a religion or not, and how this explicit religiosity or lack of it is essential for cultness. One could spend ages going round in circles on the religion question. The are businesses that have cult aspects, military organizations that have cult aspects, even strange social phenomena like the child beauty pagent world may have a
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QuoteI was aggressively recruited (red flag at the time) by a spin-off of Lifespring. I do not know what lifespring is. PLease advise. Is Lifespring related somehow to Landmark?
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QuoteIs it a cult, is it not? The eternal question. That makes it a cult. Got it? Simple closed system of logic. It doesn't have to be a declared religion to be a cult. You want to cast doubt in my mind? That's cultish. Another paradox. That's cultish too. Got it? There is no ending to this argumentation and this is how Landmark/EST was designed to be. An enigma with no
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QuoteIt is clear that you are a Landmark zealot who wants to "share your new possibilities" with us, but we are not dupe. And if you want to insist that I am running a racket, I couldn't care less. This means you are being cultish, which confirms my knowledge. Do you get it? Yes. I definitely took the course and yes I got something very specific and important (to me) out of it
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Quote Is this the new soft technique developed by Landmark to enroll people pretending this is not enrolling? The same old song of deception again and again. Is it the enrolling that makes Landmark suspect? Can you expand on that comment about deception? The enrolling segment of the course seemed like an infomercial and they separated “sharing” from “inviting”. Our “homework” was to tell
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Quotethe leader blasted her for "making him wrong" and running a "poor victim whose daddy doesn't lover her" racket. Thank you for sharing that story. This reminds me of something remarkable that I saw in my forum. A guy went up to the mike and said that his father was a drunk and an abusive father. He went into some very specific stories of abuse that had left th
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QuoteI've experienced being humiliated in front of 200 people by the leader in the advanced course for even hinting on that Landmark might be a scam. Thank you for your post! I signed up for the Advanced Course for September 2006. Can you expand on this for me? What do you mean by "hinting that it might be a scam"? How do you define "scam" and what did you say?
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QuoteNot to mention that he left "did you do est?" out. <sniff, sniff> We just don't get no respect no more. I meant no disrespect. What is "est" and how is "est" related to this topic?
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QuoteP.S.: What is the purpose of you're pool? Suppose I say No. Does it mean I know nothing about what Landmark is? Is there a "secret knowledge" that can be acquired only through personal experience, emotions and feelings? If you answer yes, that sounds "cultish" to me. Same old song ... I did not answer the part of your question asking about the purpose of the p
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Yes. You are right. I am as sure as you are that my friends would have told me to call my sister. However, I wasn't looking there and I didn't feel like I was lacking in that area. The thing is that I didn't even realize I was avoiding my sister until the Forum leader started talking about rackets. I have avoided her so well, for so long, I didn't even notice it anymore.
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I was unaware of this site before taking the Landmark Forum in March 2006. I might not have taken it based on some of the posts that are here. For those of you that are curious, here is what happened with me during the weekend forum in Boston, MA. I saw that I avoid difficult situations. For example: My sister had been sexually abused by our father when we were little. I never knew
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