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19 years ago
Marcos
I removed the personal note. Although as this board is an ongoing discussion, I felt it was an appropriate means of discussion, I will attempt to refrain from doing so in the future.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
19 years ago
Marcos
Harmony was the name of the LGAT that I went to, and thanks to my very strong and committed girlfriend(LoriS) was able to exit after the first level of training. For us however it wasn't just the four days I was at the "training". Our "charismatic leader" had us well indoctrinated for a few years prior to that. Including three day trainings before that, mostly about ou
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
19 years ago
Marcos
I agree that Socrates screwing with the process sounds pretty darn scary. If we are using our power to "trance" people out, then what's to stop us from becoming as evil/manipulative as what we are trying to stop. For me personally, I believe the process has to be pulled apart, analyzed, a post-mortem autopsy if you will. For me, it's not enough to say "Oh Boy, that tr
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
19 years ago
Marcos
I understand what you are saying Corboy. And can definitely appreciate your points. For me, it's not so much about out thinking the FL's. From experience obviously that is an impossibility. You can't out talk them. Out argue them. They are experts at verbal judo. I realize from their extensive training that they are experts at dealing with any "troublemakers". As you
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
19 years ago
Marcos
Quotegc4062While I never led the forum itself (Guy is your resident expert on that topic), I led a number of other programs that follow it, as well as training introduction leaders, and other program leaders. As a sort of unwritten code amongst former staff and program leaders, we never discuss the actual techniques used to mess with your head, as it could easily be picked up and used by other
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
19 years ago
Marcos
GC, Any chance you still have the old manuals? What type of information was in the manuals? I've read some things on here from you and Guy about the different things that were worked on to manipulate people. As a former staffer/employee I'm sure your insight is greater than mine or most. I'm sure you've identified many of the manipulative techniques used. Would you mind
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
19 years ago
Marcos
I remember when I finished my "training" I felt like I could only date/marry someone who had gone through what I had gone through. I remember sitting in an airport with some of my friends and talking about that exactly. We talked about the fact that we would only be able to date people who were open to experiencing Harmony. Otherwise how difficult would it be to be with someone so close
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
19 years ago
Marcos
I know when I got "out" of my cult experience, I took about three days, and wrote a 20 page document on my experience and what it meant to me. What happened. What I have problems with etc. It's been a year now. The funny thing is right after I was done the whole course was kind of fuzzy, I couldn't remember everything I did. A year later, it's really fuzzy. I thin
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Marcos
9. plants
I am completely convinced there was a plant within my Harmony group(a lifespring offspring). Within 5 minutes of the class starting this girl is spilling her guts out on this horrible life that she has had, basically shocking the whole class, and making all of us empathize with her. Thing is, the class had just started, I remember asking myself, why is she saying these things. What I found odd ab
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Marcos
There is a full notebook of canned responses given to Harmony/Impact graduates upon their third class. All of them artfully written to avoid any direct confrontations with the truth, and to be as persuasive as possible. I don't have the notebook, but it's possible I could get it. Would make an interesting read on here I bet.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Marcos
I have some experience with what you are going through right now. I went to the sister program Harmony in SLC a little less than a year ago. Due to my girlfriend(who posts here as LoriS), I was able to fight off my programming and come back to reality. I may be able to shed some insight on what to expect and have the ability to talk to you and your wife in a way that can help shed some of the lay
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