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30 days ago
shamrock
It’s like our whole society needs to be vaccinated against the guru virus. That would stop this sort of thing from spreading around. I’d be interested in her take on what caused the blissful initial six weeks, and what happened after they were over.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
6 weeks ago
shamrock
There is a new book out titled Emissary of Insight. The first half is a biography of Goenka; the second half is a collection of his writings. What stayed in my mind was Goenka’s gradual retreat into an entrenched position of his own rightness and everybody else’s wrongness. At one point Goenka was one of a handful of students authorized to teach by U Ba Khin. As the years went by, he broke awa
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
3 months ago
shamrock
Dennis Swanson, a former insider in John MacArthur's empire, reveals that ghost-writers were involved in writing John MacArthur's books. He describes the practice of trashing reputations, and the atmosphere of fear and intimidation that reigned in John MacArthur's organization.
Forum: Destructive Churches
3 months ago
shamrock
New allegations have emerged that John MacArthur draws multiple salaries, own multiple homes, and has family members on the board supposed to supervise him:
Forum: Destructive Churches
5 months ago
shamrock
Thanks for keeping us up to date, Sahara. I thought the whole thing was amusing at first, but now I'm concerned for Jeff.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 months ago
shamrock
The second hour of this interview examines the hypnotic hold that Tibetan Buddhist gurus have over their followers.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 months ago
shamrock
I would guess that this derives from the cult that centered around Chandra Mohan Jain a.k.a. Rajneesh a.k.a. Osho. He is the one who took the genuine tantric tradition and packaged it for Westerners as “neo-Tantra” a.k.a. “sacred sexuality” a.k.a. prostitutes pretending to be priestesses.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 months ago
shamrock
QuoteSahara71 I thought I would laugh It's hilarious. I laughed as I read your story. I'm almost disappointed that you may miss a few weeks, so we won't get an update next week!
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
6 months ago
shamrock
I can't offer much in the way of comments except to say yes, I agree with you: confident and charismatic speakers are very persuasive. They're also very pleasant to listen to. Even so, I was slightly surprised to learn that the crowd grew for the second week. The demographic for this kind of material must be larger than I realized.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
6 months ago
shamrock
BTW, this talk of spiritual superiority reminds me of the Jed McKenna character in the books written by Peder Sweeney.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
6 months ago
shamrock
You can click through to the authors' original paper at . The paper didn't display online properly for me, and I had to download the PDF to read it. As Vonk and Visser say in their conclusion, "The phenomenon of spiritual superiority is widely recognized." I've heard it referred to before as the "spiritual ego." It's neat that they claim to be able to me
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
6 months ago
shamrock
Maria Lena Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A highly recommended short video by Jac O'Keeffe > with an approach to the presentation he gave at > THE WORLD UNITED congress. The title was: Finding > balance with the dualities of being human and > embracing spirituality. > > It's worth listening to and lasts only 15 minutes.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
7 months ago
shamrock
The latest news about Hillsong is "Hillsong Pastor and Justin Bieber's One-Time Spiritual Confidant Carl Lentz Fired for 'Moral Failures'". A large collection of complaints about Hillsong is catalogued at .
Forum: Destructive Churches
7 months ago
shamrock
The Financial Times also put together a video titled "Is QAnon a game gone wrong?"
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
7 months ago
shamrock
zizlz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I hope someone can make a more easily digestible > text/video with the information, for the less > informed/intelligent like me. Searching around on Google, I found this story from the Financial Times Alphaville site for October 16, 2020. The article is titled “The ‘game theory’ in the Qanon conspiracy theory.”
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
7 months ago
shamrock
You don’t need Tor to view 8kun. It’s on the regular web at [8kun.top]. Also, I believe @codemonkeyz no longer works on the site. I don’t know why he quit.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
7 months ago
shamrock
I was thinking of Sudhir Kakar, The Inner World, and V. S. Naipaul, An Area of Darkness.
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7 months ago
shamrock
zizlz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I can > imagine that this negative view of material > reality can lead to a decrease in initiative to > improve material or even societal conditions. That was certainly the nineteenth-century Western view of the East. Several authors, learning about Indian spirituality for the first time, characterized it a
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
7 months ago
shamrock
The other thread on NXIVM is under "Large Group Awareness Training, Human Potential" at Latest news is that Keith Raniere has just been sentenced to 120 years in prison.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
7 months ago
shamrock
"Keith Raniere, a self-improvement guru whose organization Nxivm attracted millionaires and actors, was sentenced on Tuesday to 120 years in prison on convictions that he turned some female followers into sex slaves branded with his initials."
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
7 months ago
shamrock
For those of you who don't have time to read the whole book, I discovered a 5-minute interview with the authors of Guru Papers. The video has a strange introduction. The interviewer delivers his remarks one sentence at a time, with a fade-out/fade-in between sentences. Diana Alstad then defines the problem as "anyone who tries to control others, under the guise of claiming to know
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
8 months ago
shamrock
Meditation-Induced Psychosis Abstract Meditation is a self-regulatory psychological strategy that is frequently applied in Western as well as non-Western countries for different purposes; little is known about adverse events. A male patient is described who developed an acute and transient psychosis with polymorphic symptomatology after meditating. A literature search for psychotic states r
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8 months ago
shamrock
Well, again I would argue that just because awareness of awareness seems like a direct experience of reality doesn't means that it actually is a direct experience of reality. But apart from that, I think we're on the same page. These regressive states of consciousness can be therapeutic. Which is great. But I don't take their achievement to be the ultimate goal of life -- which is
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8 months ago
shamrock
Quotezizlz We can never experience reality truly unbiased or directly, unless we meditatively point awareness on itself. Then we don't experience any symbol/reference, just direct reality. It's true that, as we settle into quietness, the state of consciousness we encounter seems more real than our fading thoughts and emotions. But just because it seems more real doesn't mean tha
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 months ago
shamrock
Adyashanti is one of the few of these people I like. I’ve never heard anything bad about him. He’s like “the exception that proves the rule.” I agree with zizlz that his talks are insightful.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 months ago
shamrock
too many suicides Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's from a talk by Karl Renz. > Karl has spoken out against Mooji in a few of his > books and talks. > The video title is "What do you have against > Mooji?" According to Chi Ting Apocalypse, Karl’s beef is that Mooji stole all his customers: “Karl Renz has been sighted sk
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 months ago
shamrock
QuotezizlzIt leads to the realization that form is no different and no less real than formlessness. That’s a great way of articulating it.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 months ago
shamrock
QuoteSahara71 A friend of mine once tried to 'live in the now' for a period of several weeks and everyone quickly became frustrated with her because nothing was done and everyone else had to pick up the slack and it was as annoying as hell. That's interesting. The mindlessness E.T. advocates is like the condition of an infant. It makes sense that all the adults around such a per
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 months ago
shamrock
That model seems realistic. Stage 12 is interesting: "Mental & physical burnout & financial poverty." There's a book on trance by Dennis R. Weir that describes the end result of hypnotic spiritual practices as "an impoverished reality," by which he means a life of little variety and few choices. The new recruit to a cult believes that he or she is benefiting from
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
9 months ago
shamrock
A quick search takes you to the Cult Education Institute thread "Eckhart Tolle -- Comments From Someone who Knows Him." The original post was by Wanderer77, who apparently knew him 25 or 30 years ago, before he became famous. She characterizes him from her point of view as: QuoteWanderer77 An extremely, and I want to say, dangerously isolated individual, who has become worse,
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