I don't know if this was their "privacy" policy, at the time when i was taking their courses, but i was not shown this. Since they keep information on people, and i don't see anyplace here where they get rid of it after someone leaves the program, it wouldn't surprise me if they applied this to past participants, as well. I will afford Landmark exactly as much privacy as
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I was looking for some information and stumbled upon this. This is extremely creepy, and it's on Landmark's own website. For the part that was of special interest to me, click on: "Types of Personal Information We Collect." They mention biometric information, genetic information, sexual activity, religious and political beliefs, etc, And i don't see where it tells us h
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@SomewhereInMiddleAmerica They say, "It's not for everybody," but when i decided it wasn't for me, (after giving it more than a fair chance), they hounded me with phone calls for months. My recruiter's partner also informed me that she and my recruiter were "grooming" me to take over the job of a staff member who was leaving. They hadn't asked me if
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It makes me almost physically ill that you would get on this message board and defend this program. These boards are full of people who have been seriously injured or had their lives destroyed by LGATS and other cults. To read your post is like reading a post by someone who dated Ted Bundy and didn't get murdered, so they go online and tell everybody, "He's not that bad." Grow
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I haven't been around Landmark since 2009, but my experience was ghastly, long lasting, and life-destroying. I gained absolutely nothing from the program that I hadnt already gotten elsewhere - really, it's just a bunch of reframing mixed in with mind-fuck. I would strongly advise anybody and everybody to stay well away from it. You may have gotten away in one piece, if you didn't
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titLwayhalnoyou wrote: "So, now that I've done it - I can say it's not a cult and if there's chatter about that, I say it's because evil wants to over-rule good." Are you kidding me? They attempt to normalize incest and pedophilia, and blame rape victims for their own attacks. If you don't believe me, read the last post, (on Page 1), in this link:
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@SirReal, @AmeliaRobertson You're not wrong. Although my experience was at Landmark, (and i was there for over a year), what you have written, SirReal, is so familiar that I would have to say the programs are identical, for all intents and purposes. The creepiness is noticeable right from the start. It's a wonder that anyone actually signs up, but they are already causing people to d
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@Natahoo, So are you saying that this firm would be willing to take these cases? These cases are notoriously difficult to prove. LGATs are extremely slippery, and cover their tracks. Also, by the time they get to the point of bringing it to court, the clients are usually broke. They would have to take most of the cases on the basis that they get paid if they win the case. Also, it is p
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rafaelrarq You wrote: "But Forum made my low self steem even lower, I started to hate my self without perceive it." That's exactly what the Forum, (and pretty much what all Landmark and LGATS programs), are designed to do. Don't be too hard on yourself. I guess it IS important to talk about it. You might want to find a therapist who helps people through trauma. I d
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rafaelrarq. When i realized how far they had gotten with me, i got away from Landmark, and anybody who had any involvement with Landmark. I cut off a lot of people i had once believed to be friends. If i got a call from or about Landmark, I blocked whatever phone number the call came from. Then, I surrounded myself with family and old friends who had never been to Landmark. It was sort o
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@bd, I was involved with Landmark for a little over a year. During seminars, they would train us on how to anticipate and sidestep peoples' reasons, (or according to them, "excuses"), for not attending, but we weren't actually given a script for recruiting people. The Forum leaders do follow an actual script, but the rank and file participants are just told to notice wh
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* I should add that, in reality, those legal booby traps in their forms are "empty and meaningless," however. When you look at those contracts with a clear head, it's obvious to most that they would never hold up in court. What I imagine is that they will all someday be charged under the RICO Act, (which is all about racketeering). It's ironic how they talk so much about &
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John, you're right about much of that, and everything about them is sleazy. I'm not giving up hope of that takedown, though. There is also timing involved. Why show our hand, (or our identities), before we've got everything lined up to act? They will try to destroy the credibility of anyone who they consider a threat, so I give warnings here, and vivid descriptions of behavior,
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John, Yes, Leah Remini has been brave, as have the others whom she has interviewed. But what have the tangible results been? I haven't seen the church of Scientology shut down. I haven't seen arrests. In fact, COS has expanded, in recent years, into my state. It wasn't here before. She gives warnings to those who will listen, but she hasn't stopped them. People who do t
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John, I understand your frustration that we aren't all jumping to get on YouTube with our stories, but the way I see it, it's kind of a trade-off. If I were to get on YouTube, they would be able to identify me, and then I would have to be careful about what I said, lest I ended up getting sued. I think that most of us would also be concerned over the safety of family members, etc. O
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facet, I read the book when it first came out. I have read that he has added to it. I liked the original version. I can't vouch/don't know what was added later. Personally, I don't worry about being hypnotized unawares by written material. I have read some books, (not this one), that had self-hynosis exercises, but it told me what they were. I could choose to do them, or not.
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Sorry for the sidetrack, (again), John Hunter, PhD Back to what you're saying, "Landmark, like LGATs before it, does not explicitly state, “Do not think, and do not challenge what is being said, because it is difficult to manipulate you when you do this”," We no, they don't explicitly state that, but you learn very quickly that if you challenge anything, you will spend
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facet, I would not say that the book uses hypnosis techniques. It has been years since I read the entire thing. As i recall from reading the excerpt, the book describes what might be considered a hypnosis technique that is used by police to help victims or witnesses to recall details. I don't know if you read the excerpt, (it's a short read), but to summarize it, a woman was rap
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Haha - fair enough. I'm not finished with your book yet, but I finished reading your PhD, shortly after you posted it here. Yes, I would highly recommend it, (in fact I did). No offense meant, and the other book is on a different topic, (safety in general, and discerning dangerous situations/people). I don't recall that it even mentions cults, LGATs or mind control. I will certa
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*I'm sorry if you felt that I was trying to undermine your work. I value your research and information very highly. I wouldn't argue with your conclusions, as to the effect of LGATs on the nervous system, or on anything, really. I am also not promoting that there's anything mystical about our "gut feelings," and neither does Gavin Dr Becker. It's actually quite
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John Hunter, I'm not saying that instinct or intuition should be trusted over rational thinking. I don't think that Gavin Dr Becker is saying that, either. I am much aware of some of Oprah's leanings. I only used that link because that was the only excerpt i could easily find, at the time. I have previously used other links as excerpts for that book, but couldn't find them
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Gavin de Becker talks about trusting one's gut in "The Gift of Fear," and also gives a scientific explanation, (he has also trained secret service agents. This can be confirmed by looking up his bio). Much of what he is saying is that we know more than we think we do. We have thousands of pieces of information being processed by our brains, at any moment, but are only focused on tw
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John Hunter PhD posted a quote from a book about est, in which a woman related a story of incest, then: "Immediately after that woman finished sharing another woman stood up and said, ‘I just realized listening to this woman how much I loved my father and part of me wished my father had committed incest with me." That second woman sounded like she was planted, to me, if it ever ha
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Truthnow wrote: "People who were Baker Acted are now subjected to drug intervention, which can really make their lives a mess." Are you saying that they are drugged against their will, and on a long-term basis? That's disgusting. If that's the case, Robbins should have to pay them for every single minute they spend on those drugs.
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John Hunter PhD, I'm reading your posts and watching your linked videos. It might take me awhile to get through everything, but it looks to me like you've done a lot of good, solid research, and I tend to agree with many of your conclusions about Landmark. There are a couple of things that i will add into p.m.s I'm sorry to not have responded earlier. I've been a bit
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That's a good thought, and I think you might be right. They depend so much on the discomfort of participants, I don't know if it would have the same effect if everyone is seated a glorious 6 feet from each other. And, they want as many butts in those chairs as possible. When I was on production teams, I recall that they wouldn't even bother if a minimum number didn't sign up.
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Well, there's science, and then there's what people will tolerate. There are also cultural differences. The Japanese have been wearing masks for years, so that's no big deal to them, but they don't like having their businesses shut down. In the U.S., not only do we have people refusing to wear masks, but some of them move through the grocery store without regard for social di
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Clarinets21, I have never heard of Atlas, but most LGATs seem to use the same tactics. It seems to me that what they do could be described as psychological rape. The fact that you're trying to get rid of unpleasant memories makes it sound to me as if you've been somewhat traumatized by the whole experience. My best guess would be to try to find a counselor who deals with trauma.
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The restrictions are much the same all over the world. I really don't know what to think. I've been following medical updates, and it seems that the frontline people are desperately trying to learn as they go. It is a novel virus, with features they haven't seen before. The ARDS syndrome looks different from the usual ARDS, on X-Rays. There is a clotting syndrome associated with
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I'm not sure who you're talking about. I know of Dr Deborah Birx, who is working with Fauci on the coronavirus response. I did search for a Deborah Blix, and got one result, which linked me back to Dr. Birx. If there is someone else that you are speaking of, I will look, if you paste a link. Otherwise, I have noticed the way that Dr. Birx speaks. Although I am not entirely comfor
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