There's a terrific and horrifying documentary on PBS about Ginni and Clarence Thomas. Even this dim bulb/wife of a Supreme Court justice apparently saw through the Lifespring scam but, curiously, didn't or doesn't recognize the other cults to which she adheres -- namely Q-Anon and the John Birch Society, (not to mention the other elephant in the room). You would think that escape
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This is old news but still one of the best as far as Landmark is concerned. The comments are terrific. From the Wayback Machine: Ellen
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I can't believe this scientology-derived whack-a-doodle cult is still in business. Anything they "offer" or pretend to make "possible," believe me, you will reap the opposite. Your relationships will stink, your friends will flee when they see you coming, your "success" will founder, and, guess what their answer is? You need more and more Landmark. I am appa
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OMG -- She claims to understand cults and cult mind-control but apparently embraces Q-Anon. News at 11:00
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Hi Dane, Hope you're still reading here and I'd like to give you my small bit of knowledge. I imagine most people don't think much of the long-term psychological damage that can persist decades after you've left a cult or that, if you've sought out counsel or "deprogramming" you've can or should have "gotten over" the sad, sick number they can d
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So Deborah Birx finally said something that wasn't fawning and obsequious and a "mirror" of tRump's "leadership" and he goes on a Twitter attack: “So Crazy Nancy Pelosi said horrible things about Dr. Deborah Birx, going after her because she was too positive on the very good job we are doing on combatting the China Virus, including Vaccines & Therapeutics,”
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.....Knew something wasn't right with this one. Deborah Birx was waaaay too willing to roll over, craft her messages to flatter him, and beg Trrrump for approval. "When Birx first came on the scene at the beginning of the pandemic, I wrote about the fact that she was part of a Christian right public health subculture (yes, that actually exists) that surrounds Mike Pence's o
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Betsy DeVos sends taxpayers' money to the Wrights: "...For instance, the department redirected $495,000 to a private college called the "Wright Graduate University for the Realization of Human Potential," which has a website dedicated to reassuring the public that the school is not, in fact, a cult. Wright enrolls 39 students, and its educational doctorate program in &quo
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I misspelled her name. Yes, she did an artful dodge defending Trump's assertions, using the word "clear" six or seven times. (So maybe scientology.) She used "breakthrough" to describe what we needed (as far as testing is concerned). She said something about Trump "dialoging" and doing conversation "around" his claims. I dunno, maybe because I wish
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Anyone else's radar go up listening to her talk? I'll admit I am hyper-reacitve to anything sounding vaguely "Landmarky" but watching her yesterday I thought she must have gone through some kind of training similar to theirs.
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They are like weeds. You can't get rid of them, only control them for a short time. For some reason, incomprehensible to me, their idiotic beliefs are persistent, pernicious, and long-lived. Do you recall, or are you familiar with Dr. John Mack, Harvard professor who apparently got mixed up with Werner Erhard and started his plunge into madness. He was famously ridiculed for his purs
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....Say, bakkagirl, You're not drinking any of that scientology Kool-Aid, are you?
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YO -- PoloDave, You are parroting the company's pre-packaged responses. You are using their words and their "concepts." What do you suppose this reveals? (It starts with a "B.") Ellen
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Interesting article about the conceit of the various inheritors of Werner Erhard-type garbage bin of "ideas." For the watchers of the Landmarkian dumpster fire you can trace this back to the blatherings of L. Ron Hubbard in recent history or the splitting of Buddhism some two millennia ago.
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From alt.fan.landmark Old News 8/8/17 On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 9:18:30 PM UTC-7, tubby wrote: > An Exclusive Opportunity > to Review the Advanced Course > > > Have you heard the news? The Advanced Course has been updated and is more powerful than ever! Whoa! Ever.... This course, which features numerous new enhancements, will “rock your world” with its s
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Here's one of the best things ever posted to alt.fan.landmark. I've reposted it several times. I don't think she'd mind. You can pull up her other posts over there. Newsgroups: alt.fan.landmark Date: 9 Mar 2002 06:59:06 -0800 Local: Sat, Mar 9 2002 6:59 am i would like to know if there is anyone out there stuggling with the same issues that i have encountered...
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Anyone familiar with with "leadership" training? The author is Kerry Patterson. Some of his stuff sounds vaguely familiar. It's being used at my workplace. Ellen
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He started out with some early pyramid scheme that had quasi-religious underpinnings called "Holiday Magic." That and door-to-door encyclopedia sales mixed in with what he learned from scientology. It's all in "Outrageous Betrayal." Ellen
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He has been a victim (don't use the word "victim" around him) of a semi-(or not so) sophisticated progam of mind control, influence, and persuasion that is designed to turn him into slave-labor, unending wallet-grabbing "enrollee," and recruitor for the group. It's a money-making scheme that more or less taps into the innermost desires, hopes, and dreams of certain
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Another of the writers to famously expound on this absurdity was Susan Sontag in "Illness As Metaphor." She bumped against the "positivists" when she came down with cancer in the 1970's. A great debunker of the "cancer personality" theories of the time, she went on to examine how different diseases have been seen to be linked to attitude, disposition, lack-of-
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It's been called "catnip for the conceited" since the 1970s, which captures the essence but makes it sound less malignant than the cult for narcissists that it is. Landmark, and similar programs, encourage those with self-centered, sociopathic tendencies, who might have been priorly constrained by ethical or cultural standards, farther along the path to nasty-assed exploitation, a
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...A more likely explanation is that he was and is an uneducated man who made every attempt to mimic what he thought sounded knowlegable and erudite. He also included large doses of the scientology mish-mash language he learnt "studying" it. No question, an extended involvement in Landmark can cause a type of brain damage, or derangement, if you like. The words you use to sort thin
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You betcha. It's no great leap to the conclusion that people like Werner Erhard have figured out ways to dove-tail themselves and their programs into the normal to mild swings most of us feel. I suspect those more seriously affected by mood cycles -- whether diurnal, hormonal, nutritional, reflexive, deprivational, trauma or disease-related, pharmaceutical, etc., etc. -- are especially v
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Quotenewfuture@ellenaaa - thank you for letting me know that. The problem was that my past was already firmly in the past, to use landmark language. I have never been someone to dwell on things and one of my mottos in life is 'no use crying over spilled milk'. So to have all of this stuff - some of it traumatic and sad stuff that I'd dealt with by just moving on and not thinkin
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newfuture Date Added: 08/25/2011 Posts: 19 "...In the advanced course, there was a lot I didn't understand, but what got me was having to tell our 'stories' over and over again. They call this the "disappearing suffering"part but for the life of me I do not know in what world people suffer less by telling their sad incidents over and over again." This
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This website hasn't been active for some time but it's still one of the best: (The "I Love Landmark" testimonials are enough to turn most people off.) Ellen
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Werner Erhard started his est "training" in the early 1970s. His major influences were "Think And Grow Rich," by Napoleon Hill, "Psycho-cybernteics," by Maxwell Maltz, and L. Ron Hubbard's scientology. He wasn't educated or informed enough to have ever heard of Heiddeger. Later, when some of his followers suggested his clap-trap sounded vaguely Heiddeger
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