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15 years ago
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Coach...let's see....at LEC my friend has a "relationship" coach, an "image" coach, a "career" coach....does she make any decisions for herself?????? It is all BS IMHO :?
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15 years ago
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"I get that........." :roll: I can't count the number of times I hear that start to a sentence. In my case it is used as a way to cut you off. In other words I hear what you are saying but I really don't want to hear it so shut up!! However, please remember these people have been brainwashed to believe that this is for the good of all mankind and their purpose in life should
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15 years ago
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Quotenutrinoinquiry... When they're toe to toe with well rested, well educated, not easily intimidated or easily impressed hard thinking adults, they come off like pompous teenagers who've been reading some introductory existentialism and had one too many shots of vodka... You hit the nail on the head!!!!
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15 years ago
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I was being facetious when I said "but what does he have to do with LEC".......That's what the lekkies say they try to act like he has nothing to do with the Forum.
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15 years ago
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And he is coming back in 3 years...the second coming. Oh but what has he to do with LEC?.......
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15 years ago
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QuoteAcid Reindeerback to the original topic of discussion, I have had it said by one grad that (paraphrasing) "comparing est to Landmark is like comparing a Model T to a sports car" so you can ready yourself for the rejoinder. also for the "LEC doesn't have anything to do with Werner Erhard". I too, have heard something similar. When I first started researching LEC
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15 years ago
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Thanks for the link. Another instance where only the top echelon of the group knows what the group is really all about. Although, fortunately word has been leaked out. However I'll bet those newbies are highly discouraged from getting the information.....they aren't READY for the truth. I had no idea what Scientology was REALLY about. Another "Outrageous Betrayal." Although
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15 years ago
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QuotetywebbQuotefleurI have been involved in the Landmark forum conversation for nearly three years. I left it for a while though and have recently gone back to attend an integrity seminar. It was good to be back. I saw huge ammounts of possibility for me and my life, my partner and our future. I took it all on, but when I told my boy friend about the course, and he looked up on line and foun
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15 years ago
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Yes Ellen it is easy to spot them. I added my own review. Again this is a must read if you or anyone you care about is involved in Landmark Education. The facts of Werner/Jack's life give some understanding of how he was/is able to bamboozle so many. One would think if the allegations were untrue there would have been a tremendous libel verdict against the author. More unbelieveable is
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15 years ago
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I just received this book by Steven Pressman that profiles "THe Dark Journey fo Werner Erhard from est to Exile." After reading only the Prologue and first two chapters and skimming the rest I cannot believe ANYONE would follow the teachings of such a person!!!!! I am now even MORE outraged!!!! How do the LEKKIES explain the background of their founder? If you are even thinking about
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15 years ago
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Well, they are "conferencing" now and my loved one has been doing it for several years. And again...NOTHING is allowed to interfere with this.
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15 years ago
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Yeah thats what they do. They are talking to new people. Several, at least two, gang up on the newbie. I thought it had something to do with work, but then I found the sheets. Wish I could've copied them.
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15 years ago
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The conference calls are a big thing. When my loved one first started talking about them I thought it was business (she actually works for them) then i realized they read bs to each other. You cannot miss the calll for ANYTHING!!! It is really weird and disturbing. It is a way to make sure the LEKKIES stay with the program. A way to always keep control.
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15 years ago
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However the LE Philosophy is totally contradictory to Christianity. It is more about New Age Mysticism. They try and say they are in line with Christian thinking but the deeper you get in the more you find this is definitly not something someone with a true Christian faith would want to get involved in. If she is a Christian you might try and point out how Landmarks teaching contradicts her fai
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15 years ago
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Sequel coming out in this month "What the"Bleep" Do We Know...Down the Rabbit Hole" Here is the website:
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15 years ago
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I am really interested in anyone who got sucked deeper into LE with promises of becoming one of the 50 or so Forum Leaders. Does anyone know anything about "levels" leading up to "designated leader" which I understand is still not paid. What exactly is a designated leader. Are there levels, starting with "apprentice" which lead to "designated" which I under
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15 years ago
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The forum leader's pics and names are on the website. Check it out and see if he's there.
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15 years ago
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Quotemidonov123QuoteEther Dragon I can bet a fortune that she will get "coached" again following your request and that she will propose to you to sit down with the Center manager instead to work things out (that also I heard before). But ask her, what are the professional qualifications of that manager? Chances are he has none. His main goal is to meet quotas and to break people w
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15 years ago
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I finally found something about WE and the profits. I don't see a date. Is this site reliable? The article says that WE is assured half of the pretax profits each quarter and that the "technology" reverts to him in 2009.
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15 years ago
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Speaking of WE, aka JR, I think I remember reading somewhere that he gets half of the before tax profits of LE and that the "technology" reverts to him in a few years. I am not sure where I read it, other than it was on the internet, but I know I did. Is it true? And if so that site needs to be posted.
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15 years ago
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Quotemidonov123Quotesonnie_deeQuoteCould someone please elaborate as to what they teach regarding using sex and seductive practices to lure in others? they dont specifically teach how to use sex to pull people in but they use the following type of phrases "if you want your relationships to work you must all think in the same manner" "if your partner loves you they will tr
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15 years ago
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Sgali, Thanks for the response on NLP. Although I havent been to a Forum from what has happened to my loved one it appears this is part of what LE uses. She also tries to use it on us, doesnt work. We just see it as weird language. It is very sad because she really believes she is doing something good./
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15 years ago
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So......what is probably the BEST way to stop them is to get a big media expose in the United States. If I understand correctly that is part of what took EST out was the threat of a big media exposure. (Of course EST was reborn as Landmark) Surely someone can get to the media. The big expose' shows haven't done anything really controversial in a while. With all the people who have at le
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15 years ago
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My loved one also is really involved in new age junk. A lot of it is VERY strange!!!
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15 years ago
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How about going with a "partner" both of you committed to dragging the other out screaming if either start showing effects? Also we would have someone not there staying in touch and if they saw effects or couldn't reach us coming and getting us? However, I must say that recent posts by ex Landmarkians, Lekkies, etc. have really given me some insight I didn't have before. I b
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15 years ago
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Does anyone else have someone close sucked into promises of becoming one of the chosen paid leaders? If so what were their experiences? If they saw the light, what made them see it?
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15 years ago
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Along the lines of stopping them...How do they get away with not paying office staff minimum wage based on hours worked? Are their not laws in the US about unpaid volunteers like in France? I have NEVER heard of a for profit corporation having volunteers do the work.
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15 years ago
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Again, thanks Nettie and Sonnie for your posts! What is it with these "conference calls?" When I first heard the term, I thought conference call as in business. I mean NOTHING was allowed to interfere with these calls. Finally I realized the calls consisted of reading to each other over the phone. I think this is MAJORLY weird. BTW what is "BEING OUT OF INTEGRITY?" That is
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15 years ago
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Wow! What a post!!!!!!!!!! This may really help. Keep em coming! BTW, how long were you involved and do you mind saying what area?
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15 years ago
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So the big question here is how do we get a big media expose' of LE in the US? Or is it true, according to my loved one that "they have all been transformed?" :roll:
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