I have to agree with elena. Run don't walk. This is a horrible situation. Get a great divorce attorney!
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Apologies...I did not mean to put any one down. I was taken by a desciple of LEC. She seemed to good to be true, and she was. It was clear to me that LEC was nothing more than a scam after the 3 hour friends and family bullshit. Then she really started pushing it. I had to do it. Her Mom...a lekkie volunteer for 8 years hooked her into it big time, and it was impossible to even have a conversa
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One of the many things that is sad and I guess laughable about EST/Forum/Landmark is the whole transformation bit, which seems to be one of the big Axioms on which they abide and use to seduce people. I remember my fiancee trying to convince me that" she has seen it transform lives" Well, it didn't seem like anyone was really transformed or that much better off. In fact...heari
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I too was taken by a Lekkie on the internet. E-harmony was the site, and Yes I did report her, however they did not tell me what action they would take. It is my firm belief that Landmark(I really hate calling them that as I feel they don't even deserve a name, except perhaps A collective group of dupes, pawns, drones and losers) is using dating sites to have their drones recruit people.
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It is amazing and quite predictable. These words came fro my ex and her Mom...a lekkie volunteer for many years. I am starting to find the humor in it as it is truly laughable. Once the hurt begins to fade the humor begins to kick in and you realize what a huge joke these clowns are. Their tactics are downright sinister..using peoples vulnerabilities against them all in an effort to indoctrina
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I have heard the same shit from my ex. One of the beauties they like to use as well is "do you wan't to be right or do you want to be loved" Personally I would rather be right than be loved by a lekkie. They also like to beat you down with "oh you know, you know,you know everything" when you tell them that the whole mileau is designed to manipulate people, induce st
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QuotefleurI have been involved in the Landmark forum conversation for nearly three years. I left it for a while though and have recently gone back to attend an integrity seminar. It was good to be back. I saw huge ammounts of possibility for me and my life, my partner and our future. I took it all on, but when I told my boy friend about the course, and he looked up on line and found all you g
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My ex has tried to get the company she works for to do it, but to no avail. She has alienated herself from her co workers, but she still tries to get everyone she comes in contact with to do the forum. She is a full blown deployable agent, and she does not even realize it. That's what's so damned frightening.
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WOW..it's really frightening to see that you were told almost verbatim the same thing that I heard from my fiancee. Lekkies are drones and pod people, alienating themselves from anyone who does not do the forum. It's impossible to have a rational conversation about the fraud called Landmark with a lekkie. I would have to say that it is time to give up the ghost, or get her to an i
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I had a relationship that ended because of my fiancee's involvment with Landmark. One of my closest friends asked if this was something that I would want to raise my children with. I knew that I could never stand by and watch it happen, and I also knew that it would be forced upon our children if we ever had them as her mother has been a LEC devotee since the begining, and it's her dre
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Nutrino...Yes, I would be very interested in what happens during "sex night" and the six day seminar in general.
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Your boy friend was right to be concerned. There are few things more frightening then watching someone you love being seduced by clear manipulative tactics. It's like living in a horor movie. Clearly, the design of the mileu is a blatant attempt to manipulate people for the sole purpose of bringing more money to the Rosenberg Family. Those who get sucked in have been duped and conned. It&
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Right on...but it's very difficult when a beautiful woman is seducing you with sex and praise and gifts...all to get you into Landmark. She would even do the "girl on girl" thing if I would do the seminar. It was so hard to walk away from, but I never gave in. I still have hope that she will leave it, or better yet..that LEC will be abolished. It's still so hard to cope
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My experience has been so similar. I think there are only a few ways to approach someone who has become a drone for Landmark. Either Systematic Desenitization or Implosive therapy. Both will require a therapist not associated with LEC. An intervention with family and friends or a cult de programmer are some other possibilities. The strongest influence on a person is their peer group. LEC kn
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I would love to know more as well. I can tell you that the woman I was involved with was so matter of fact and flippant about sex that it was just bizarre. I have never been with anyone who behaved like this.
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Wow. I am blown away at how similar all of our experiences have been. I heard over and over "if you really love me and are my life partner then you will do LEC" As far as sex goes.. she said she could take it or leave it. At first it seemed passionate, but then she told me she was basically frigid. When pressed on this she stated that she lied about being frigid so that I would n
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Sorry for the gender bias. This has hit me hard and fast, and I was very unaware as to the seductive practices by both sexes. Could someone please elaborate as to what they teach regarding using sex and seductive practices to lure in others? TIA
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Yep...It's really sick and twisted that there are Landmark Sirens(I would like to use another word) out there that are seducing men with the sole intention of bringing them into LEC. What was done to me was bizarre to say the least. I blame myself as well for ignoring the red flags, but I honestly felt that this woman loved me. There was so much praise, and so many gifts. And then...the axe
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Her name wasn't jessica by any chance?
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When I read stories like esther dragons..it makes me ill. I had almost the exact same experience with my fiancee. It's eerie how similar. It's like something is being dragged away from you and there's not a damned thing you can do about it. Trust me..I tried. There really is no way to have a relationship with someone in LEC. LEC should have to be licensed by the state like an
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Beware..there are women out there who do nothing but seduce men to join Landmark. They are tools and drones and pawns, and they truly believe they are trying to help others, but they will build you up and then tear you down. At first lots of sex,praise and gifts, and then they will use it to get you to do LEC. They will lie to you until you have no idea what to believe anymore. It's then th
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I have had a similar experience. How have you seen this person change? What have they given up?
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If they are practicing hypnosis or any other form of psychotherapy they should have to be licensed by each individual state. If one bill is passed making them conform to the laws of society then this will cause a total collapse of LEC. Time to start contacting senators.
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Her Mom has been involved with LEC for 9 years, and therefore there is no getting through. It's downright frightening. I would not want my children raised with this, and her Mom 's goal is to have Landmark taught in schools. Only a miracle will get her out.
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I have never witnessed anyhting as sinister as Landmark. I really hope your wife turns around. My fiancee did the advanced courses and she is getting in deeper and deeper. She used her love to try and get me to do LE. She actually said things like "if you were my life partner then you would do this for me". She truly believes that it transforms lives, and when she came out of the ad
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Does anyone know exactly how they hypnotize people..for how long? What are the lasting effects? My best friend is getting in deeper and deeper. Actually moving closer to local landmark hq. Looks like she is gone for good.
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So sweet that Landmark..which I will now refer to as skidmark ..has withdrawen their case. Oh how sweet it will be when this whole thing comes down and it's exposed that Howie has been funneling money to Jack(Erhard) My ex fiancee now tells me that the US NAVY is using Skidmark. Really...where? Show me..I keep saying. Provide something to back up these statements. According to her Opra
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I lost my fiancee to Landmark. Her Mom has been involved for years, and they started telling me the only way to communicate was for me to go through Landmark. When questioned about Erhard's background..they say" well..Jesus was a carpenter" Huh...? Are you comparing Jesus to Erhard..no no they say..just that they come from humble backgrounds. Truly bizarre stuff. I wish some
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I have lost my fiancee. She was the perfect woman, but she and her Mom are seriously into landmark. Her Mom has been doing it for 9 years. I went to the 3 hour family and friends and new right away it was not for me. I was a psych major. Behavioral Neuroscience actually, and it was clear to me that the methodology was clearly designed to manipulate the particpant. Asking to sign up new recruit
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