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4 years ago
pinkunicorn
Thoughts by Rick Ross on this video interest me in particular:
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4 years ago
pinkunicorn
I'm curious to know how Rick Ross feels about the videos put out by NXIVM/ESP/Keith Raniere on this website: What's the point? An attempt to shore up the image of the group and his own? I see a number of relatively known celebrities in these discussions. Is it just a lot of informal talk, hot air, shooting the breeze, etc., that is much ado about nothing? Is it simply an attempt
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10 years ago
pinkunicorn
Yeah, when I read that I was disgusted. If you go back and read this old Metroland article you'll see some things that are scary "coincidences": Selected relevant quotes: Her suicide note, as reported in Times Union on Feb. 1, 2004, read: “I attended a course called Executive Success Programs . . . based out of Anchorage, AK, and Albany, NY. I was brainwashed and my em
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10 years ago
pinkunicorn
Saratoga blogger posts the "smoking gun", the "ace in the hole": Raniere Caught On Camera At around the seven minute mark, Raniere, the leader of NXIVM, says he's had people "killed" for his beliefs.
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10 years ago
pinkunicorn
QuoteChristaWARNING: There's a photo of Raniere lying in bed, legs unclothed. Made me rethink my love of the human body. With the loss of nearly $70 million dollars of the Bronfman sister's trust fund due gambling in commodities trading, I don't think Vanity Fair could have picked a better picture to expose or embarrass (if he even feels that emotion) Raniere with (holding a book
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10 years ago
pinkunicorn
QuoteMonitor NXIVMVanguard Week is an 8 day celebration of Raniere's birth and, most importantly, an opportunity for him to collect "tributes" from his minions. These "tributes" include the expected speeches praising his brilliant and magnificent self and an array of real-world gifts of valuable objects that the "man with no income" could not otherwise afford t
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10 years ago
pinkunicorn
QuotesaratogaindeclineCan someone fill me in on V Week. All I know is fellow NXIVM members vacation at "Vanguard week" in the Adirondacks. I don't presume to know anything that goes on there. You'll probably have to ask insiders to relay any type of information with respect to it.
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10 years ago
pinkunicorn
Quotesulawesi2010On another note I revisited the A Cappella forum again today, forgot how big an asshole Raniere actually is... I read the rarb thread a while ago (and just briefly took a look at it again), but never really paid attention to this earlier because the name really meant nothing to me until now. It was posted at the bottom of page 10 by "livingfiction" who I believe is
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10 years ago
pinkunicorn
QuotesaratogaindeclineDear pinkunicorn. I heard your comments here had been re posted at my blog without your consent.I am sorry and will remove them if you like. I am John Tighe from I could use all your support in this difficult time. No, I don't mind. I just wanted to make it clear that they were posted here first and that I didn't post them there. I still don't
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10 years ago
pinkunicorn
The Saratoga blogger has released on his blog the contents of a letter sent to him by representatives for NXIVM threatening more lawsuits and criminal action against not only him, but websites that link to the blog, and even commentators who leave comments on the website themselves! I don't really understand how posting the address of Kristin Keeffe which anyone could obtain from a white pa
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10 years ago
pinkunicorn
It appears that the blog detailing Gailen, the child that has five nannies with unknown origins that is an experiment of Raniere, has been removed from the site from which it was detailed. I do not know the details, or even a cursory knowledge of the reasons, but I think it's safe to assume that the deep pockets of NXIVM, i.e. its access to the Bronfman sister's extensive funds, have l
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10 years ago
pinkunicorn
Quotesulawesi2010However, four people relating 'an incident' (i presume that is what was meant by the author of the blog) separately isn't an ideal source of reliable information. I do not see four people relating an "incident" in the blog's article. I see four people who have inside knowledge of what is actually going concerning this child, in particular, the act
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10 years ago
pinkunicorn
Quotesulawesi2010Has this story came from a reliable source or is it all hearsay? There are lots of claims that I am not sure can be substantiated unless someone on the inside is a whistle-blower e.g. the nannies, no contact with other children etc What are the sources for this story? According to the author of the blog: "I used 4 sources. Sometimes it is hard. Four people all see an
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
What are people who may have knowledge about thought reform techniques as provided by the link as posted on another site, opinion concerning their possible usage by NXIVM?
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
QuoteconcernedjoeMy wife reads it and, now she becomes concerned (she thought I was over-reacting to this) regarding paragraph #5: "Anchors are words, phrases or movements used as a prompt to recall a behavior, an emotion or a past experience. Anchors are used so that after the training participants have quick, easy ways to recall and apply specific leadership competencies." I just
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
Some more information on this whole NXIVM lawsuit mess. Parlato's response is in the comments.
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
I think I've given this Raniere guy too much credit. He just seems like a guy who wants to use his self-inflated smarts to get between the legs of as many women as he can, support his gambling habit, and further elevate his own narcissistic ego. He was probably hoping to bag a few celebrities too, which makes me sick just thinking about it.
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
One can only wonder about what type of ramifications the said set of events are having on those within NXIVM outside of the inner circle and what those in the upper echelons of the power structure are saying to them to rationalize the current situation. As an outsider who just comments on forums about the situation who is getting tired as a result, one can only imagine the extent of the wearin
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
The severely brainwashed are the only people who can rationalize away the most current actions of Raniere. It is the only reason the cognitive dissonance that should be generated within a follower as a result, could be submerged. Such feelings can only be evoked if a follower who holds the leader in such high esteem can consciously realize that that the leader's actions contradict his im
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
My intent wasn't to blame the victim, only what, or the points in people's lives, that made them more susceptible to such organizations, or how they were lured into them. In fact, In a previous post in this very thread I said the following: QuoteI know some people who are part of this group. I'm disappointed that they didn't trust their gut enough to see through all of the
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
QuotebigskepticI didn't want to imply that anyone who gets involved with NXIVM is weak. I know several people who are involved that have dynamic personalities. That being said, I know some who have taken the full intensive course and have walked away thinking it wasn't their thing and others who have made it the focus of their life. I guess my take on it, from what I've seen, is
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
Quoterrmoderatorpinkunicorn: The only way people can be "punished" is through the courts and within the law. Other than that public education can be deterrent, i.e. informing others about a particular group and its questionable practices and/or more general education about thought reform and coercive persuasion techniques. Yes, I understand. I wasn't suggesting otherwise.
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
QuotebigskepticMy circumstances did not warrant spending alot of money on nonsense like this and my relationship with my husband was and still is the most important thing in my life. Seeing what happened to others who became involved and hearing other accounts of broken families was the tipping point for me and I was not willing to risk what I had. For this alone, Raniere, and others at the to
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
I have no doubt that brainwashing exists. Which makes it all the more important for these type of groups to be scrutinized more closely so they can be prosecuted under the full extent of the law if they are found in violation of any. As I have stated before, I know of people who are/were in it, and the language and mannerisms that they use often times reeks of such thought reform methods. Psyc
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
QuoteBelieve me, the devoted believe so strongly in his vision that they probably think his experiment with commodities trading was necessary to further educate him so he can more expertly bring them into the future they imagine. Crazy? It is often said that "people deserve the leaders that are put over them." So, if they continue to follow some narcissistic, self-aggrandizing, emotio
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
QuoterrmoderatorFor a supposed "genius" Raniere appears to actually handle money quite stupidly. That's because it's never his own money and he's a compulsive gambler to boot. Easy come easy go. What an ethical person he is.
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
As someone who is looking from the outside in, it is possible. However, what would she not be telling the truth about? The notion that Raniere gambled away $65 million dollars in commodities and lost up to a total of $100 million in bad investments? It would seem like that would be quite easy to dismiss if it was not factual. Like I said before, a $100 million dollar loss cannot just be swe
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
Money can buy a lot of things. Not everything has a price though, like someone with a conscience. I know some people who are part of this group. I'm disappointed that they didn't trust their gut enough to see through all of the justified negativity surrounding it. But, everyone has been fooled in there life before, sometimes, multiple times. It seems to me that Raniere litera
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
Rick Ross has been mentioned in another lawsuit by NXIVM, i.e. Raniere via the Bronfman sister's funds. From Metroland: QuoteDoe 4 acted with particular malice. He has an odd belief that the plaintiffs are members of a cult. Doe 4 holds himself out as a counter-cult attorney. Doe 4 sits on the board of the Rick Ross Institute, which is headed up by noted counter-cult deprogrammer and con
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11 years ago
pinkunicorn
Someone who claims to be a former insider of NXIVM, anonymously posted the following on a person's wordpress blog that had a topic about the group because some celebrities that she is a fan of are supposedly a part of it: Quote Dear Curious Truth Seeker and Others, There are people who would like to say exactly who they are when they share data. There are many more who would like to sh
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