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14 years ago
Nietzsche
Found the below "letter" on the new Royal Way website.... it seems we are getting to them.... Copied/Pasted from ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A friend has written: “I am very reluctant to write this to you. I’m not even sure I should write this, but I am extremely upset and want your guidance. “There is a terrible b
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14 years ago
Nietzsche
Found the below "letter" on the new Royal Way website.... it seems we are getting to them.... Copied/Pasted from ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A friend has written: “I am very reluctant to write this to you. I’m not even sure I should write this, but I am extremely upset and want your guidance. “There is a terrible
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15 years ago
Nietzsche
Dear Knowledge, Yes, my parents are also involved in RW and that is why I started reading this thread. My parents are very heavily involved, and I too am VERY worried about them... If you'd like to, you may message me personally to discuss. Best of luck to you.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
Nietzsche
Has anyone noticed that, since the rw letter on cults appeared on WikiLeaks, the same letter is now on the new slick rw website (www.royalway.org) I'd love to see what they do if any other letters "appear" on wikileaks.... they can't keep up the facade forever... Some one PLEASE put up one of the more damning letters... perhaps the one on homosexuality? We need to expose
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15 years ago
Nietzsche
Did some research: 1. I can't find anything on the internet on the "Chaim Joseph Rabbinical Seminary".... they are not listed with any of the websites that list rabbinical seminaries... It's as if the place doesn't exist.... which wouldn't surprise me. If anyone else finds anything, correct me. 2. "Professional Psychotherapy Associates" appears to b
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15 years ago
Nietzsche
In case anyone hasn't looked in a while. The Royal Way website has much more information than ever before, including pictures and a biography of Michael himself. I would not be surprised if this is due (at least in part) to the postings here and on wikileaks. If Rick Ross or other informed people could look at the website and give their opinion of it, I would be interested to know w
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15 years ago
Nietzsche
So.... do we think that making a website is the groups attempt to legitimize? Or are they hurting for membership?
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15 years ago
Nietzsche
I too would be interested in what you have to say.... I have been disappointed that more people have not come out and spoken on this forum, as it seems to be the only information available on this cult.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
15 years ago
Nietzsche
Members are required to pay $500 to go to the first retreat, wherein they meet Michael. After the first retreat, and ONLY after the first retreat, may members join the classes. The first retreat is relaxing, interesting and fun. The grounds of the Ranch are beautiful, the food is good, there is a pool, etc. Subsequent retreats are more intense, but the first one makes you want to come ba
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15 years ago
Nietzsche
Yes, Michael is moderately clever in his word choice. "Cult" and "cultivate" are indeed related at their French root, however the current meaning of the word "cult" in English is different. The thing I find most disturbing is Michael's assertion that people need to give up who they are in order to "learn" from him. He never defines the term "
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15 years ago
Nietzsche
I have read the letters linked above. I find the information contained within them completely horrifying... Before I go into detail as to my interpretation of the letters, I would like to hear what others have to say. I implore the readers of this post to review the letters and to post their feelings here.
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15 years ago
Nietzsche
13. Letters
15 years ago
Nietzsche
Actually, members under 21 are allowed as I was a member at 19-20 years old. I attended the retreats and received letters previous to my 21st birthday. Generally, however, persons under 18 are not allowed to become members.
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15 years ago
Nietzsche
Does anyone know anything about this sect? This particular "church" is based in Highland, CA. www.messengers-of-messiah.org Thank you for any information.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
15 years ago
Nietzsche
I'd really like to open this discussion up once more. As I said before, my parents are a part of this organization and, in fact, are at a "retreat" this weekend. They have also added a photograph of Michael to their bedroom. If there is any information out there, please share. I am very worried. Thank you.
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16 years ago
Nietzsche
Agreed! We all need to be more diligent about this.
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16 years ago
Nietzsche
While I am more than happy to discuss Nietzsche with anyone, I agree with Anti-cult, this is not the place. If you would like to discuss Nietzsche, please contact me via private message. I apologize for taking away from the topic at hand. Thank you for setting us straight.
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16 years ago
Nietzsche
The most effective way of assessing Nietzschean philosophy is to go directly to the source material. Walter Kaufman, a Nietzschean translator and scholar (who incidentally happens to also be Jewish, like myself) is an excellent resource for information on Nietzsche, especially in relation to the Nazi appropriation of "Zarathustra"... Below are two quotes that I think speak volumes ab
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16 years ago
Nietzsche
If anyone feels comfortable discussing the specifics of their envolvement in RW and/or what they did to remove themselves from the organization, I would be most grateful for the insight. Thank you.
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16 years ago
Nietzsche
I apologize for the third post in a row: But also, does anyone know about this "Riechian Therapy" done in the private sessions with Michael. I will do some research on that as well and post it asap.
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16 years ago
Nietzsche
That said, Thank you all for your passion. I am so glad that I am not the only one. Thank you again.
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16 years ago
Nietzsche
I think that all of us are trying to find answers about this organization. We needn't resort to bashing or over-zealousness... PLEASE, let's remain on topic. My request for details is simply an attempt to clarify if anything Michael said or did provided the impetus for someone taking their own life. Likewise, if Michael did indeed change the name due in part to some investigation or
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16 years ago
Nietzsche
Stop RW: Are there any details of that case that you know in particular so that I can do some research and find out more? Thanks for you info.
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16 years ago
Nietzsche
Local News in Brief Religious Group Sued Over Gay Bias: Los Angeles Times (pre-1997 Fulltext). Los Angeles, Calif.:Mar 10, 1989. Publication title: Los Angeles Times (pre-1997 Fulltext). Los Angeles, Calif.: Mar 10, 1989. pg. 2 Source type: Newspaper ISSN: 04583035 ProQuest document ID: 66415617 Document URL: Full Text (239 words) (Copyright, The Times Mirror Company; Lo
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16 years ago
Nietzsche
I do know that the general information given in previous posts is correct. Members are encouraged to participate in all aspects of the organization and indeed, there is a flow of money from members to the structure. The above request for a permit is for the Patron's Party (Michael's Birthday Celebration) which was attended by several people I know personally. I am attempting to un
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16 years ago
Nietzsche
"Incidently, the original name of this cult was Jacumba, however after a young man commited suicide after his first and last retreat, Michael went into hiding for a while only to reemerge with a new name, royal way. " A While ago, someone made this claim.... is there any supporting evidence to this fact? Can anyone confirm or deny it?
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16 years ago
Nietzsche
INTERESTING NOTE: John D. Zemaneck is listed, in minutes from the Culver City Committee on Permits and Licenses, as the "VP of Royal Way/Jacumba"
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16 years ago
Nietzsche
Thank you for the Information. I'd also like to gather any and all information I can about this particular group. Any help from the Forum readers would be VERY helpful. Thank you again to all.
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