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18 years ago
ULTAWARE
CLASS ACTION SUITS!!!!!!!!! Gather all LEC survivors (1st hand/2nd hand) you know...... They can be beheaded at the media level... There is a definite archilles heal, we just need numbers of vocal surviviors. Together we will have a LOUD voice!
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
The exit counselor who tried to help my ex out of lec-loc said that many corps run employee training programs from lec under different names & many military & D.C.-ites have been "compromised" ..WE don't know what we don't know... The an=mazing thing to me (and all you lec-loc'd good people listen up) is if lec is going to help you improve your selves,
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
Logical thinking after entering the forum will be too late because of the subtle cult -group techniques used...uncinsciously breaking you down with room plants, the uncomfortable subtle stress, the chairs ever - so - close, the room temp (controlled by them), no outside window views (so you are forced to look at the (b)leeder, /installing subconsciously of the gropu think, then defensiveness, re
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
YZFRI, You can only know what you know, period! What you don't know, You freakin' don't know! If you are hypnotized and suggested-to, that you are a snake...you will only see your world at a 2 inch - level...& you will not resist (like some German folks did early on in Hitler days) because it is all that has been "ingrained" into you through the back door you l
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
mdiman, You are fully up in it - in a tom Cruise kinda way, eh?...Good for you! (???) Are you on Sterling's media board? PAX
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
Maggie, you have no replied in awhile, so I venture out hear to ask you...what size company do you work in? Does advancement pinge on doing these courses? Do any of the people you report to have the "1,000 yard eyeball stare" (no blinking)? Instead of trying to give you advice or lecture I'd prefer to get to know more about the prob you're dealin' with...to see if
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
Howi, To answer your own question, look at personalities you work wit, run into during the week or casually know...lok for the power hungry, manipulative type and controller - types..the road should be clear after... PAX U
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
Patrick & others, Anyone aware of Huge US Corps that have fallen to similar lec shit, like GE, Exxon, Etc? PAX
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
CB is right-on the ramp with the post.. I had an experience with my ex- & a marriage counselor who instantly had "tranced" her while she was doing selp...when I had gained info & called her on it..she pant-shitted...didn't really make me feel any better at the time but lookin' back I was on it 'cause I remained logical, above all else & also I have
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
CO, Unfortunately our paths have not crossed often enough...but I enjoyed, shared experiences (oh, more than it appears with you from the crusificion-type-divorce after 22 yrs due to lec I went thru), became educated about lec, and moved on (sadly) to survive as you have....but The worst part I learned on the journey ...from an exit lec counselor, is that this shit is packaged (diff name -
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
Kudos to you both... Ex, Form my perspective with my now ex, you are right on with what I experienced on 'grad'night ...a texas 10 gal hat of BS/hypnotism & "please make your check payable to..." There really is only one way to stop it...e-mail me,,this has nothing to concern RRoss in...he does quite alot already! thank you RR... PAX
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
M & t, M, you , IMO, are right on it...exactly what I experienced with my ex - wife of 22 yrs..after lec, she was the flip - side of a rational human being...spewing "cassette-like" dogma...AND yes, I agree, why don't they give any info before hand (the real reason they don't advertize? "cause they really offer nothing?) PAX to you both.....
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
in a nutshell ..... Right - on E! PAX
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
T, If I may, I agree here...I think that any one of us that possibly get "spider-webbed" into a cult or cult-like techniques , come out similar?......What the "f" would I know?...except from being a logical-conscious "up-front, in-my - face-witness", about this stuff? Well, people, I am still here, after the explosions, dis-trust-tie-rades (sp?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
For starters, The ONLY way to stop it is to not pay any money to see his stuff or stealburgs (purposely),,this is AMERIKA where the $$$$$$$ has full reign! Then form groups to boycott every photo-opp he has or Stealsburg does OR John Travolting too ! the sad part, is that they made money thru working very hard with their talent But now Sci is sucking it away & more importantly their
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
balkanboy, It's interesting that your description of the "make-believe" event was: "mom/dad reprimanding you for stepping in it " ...when you were simply asked to answer a question related to viewing an event...was your "trainer" treating you this way? rather than educating/helping you learn on your own how to survive the jungle? You started out with logic
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
Ya know, I think lec has been "outlawed" in the state of critical thinking since creation but hey, it's just IMO. (;~] PAX How 'bout we come up with ideas to combat/lead to change, rather than "bitch" about lec...it's strong shit...but ...one single step...starts a journey.. C'mon, many of us are/have suffering (ed) but what have we done t
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
Hey you guys, It has been awhile sicne I had face-to-face with a leccie...any suggestive questions/behavior observation I could que - in on to try to "possify" (how's that for a new Enlie word?) a leccie person? THX
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
I agree with alot of what has been discussed here...some therapists, some chiropractors and self-anointed "Sharmans" believe the philosophy so deeply...like the theory of Chaos (was it a monarch?) makes some sense but with rational thinking, it is put into perspective but if the mind is controlled, it takes in info to spill out later like a CD, IMO. The amazing, sad take...is others
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
I, personally would suspect the any, if not many, large US Corps have been "fed the fodder" with different titles than "forum', etc for team improvement, employee empowerment or manager transformation. Just listen to th elanguage used & / or signs of outright narcissism. IMO, we are such a society with a minority manipulating the majority of manipulated beings that
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
Helo, Is anyone awake? or are you so bzy workin extra hours to pay for that gas that is under IRAQ? "oh those young men & and women that are protectin' OUR oil! ('~] People. will you ever wake up to what the Shrub & cronnnies are doin"? Why do you think Blair only won by a "RCH" ? USA people, how can you allow this? PAX
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
M123, (I hope that you don't mind the short-label)...I lost a mate of 22 yrs over 1 week-end...if either one of us was comin' down with a cold - either one of us would sense it before it made us sneeze..- now I understand about what elderly people mean when they talk about 40, 50 + marriage years..they have adjusted to their diffs for the sake of "couple-ness" AWEsome...I m
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
Timmer, IMO, with all respect, perhaps not everything/anything seems as it appears..... Therapists may have been "compromised", politicians, big US corp employees, church members, relatives, even lovers... I'll say one phrase to ya to see if ya can grasp it.."it's a jungle out there.." And the possibilities are? get "out - the - box' ......to
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
Need2know, First very good thing, IMO, is that you are listening strongly to youir gut, your intuition. It is the best part of cirtically thinking!...... Stay with those felings ALWAYS!!! Back away / Back away/ Back away - for awhile, then see what happens... PAX...
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
Hope, Good-connection - rumor has it that a large majority of DCD & military have been "compromised" with lec, but undercover..remember Rumsfield's "we do not know hwat we do not know"? The herd is def. asleep!!!!!!
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
All (as of this date), Do y'all sense that we would not even be discussing some of these things, except for the fact of greed being connected? IMO, looking at the probs we see, it is, IMO (& WTH do I know?), it is a mixture of controlling techniques driven by greed/power, not just USA but other cultures..."control of the herd" used by governments but now used by busin
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
Moderator, Is there any awareness of Oprah being "compromised" as Dr Fill seems to be?
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
Humbly, I offer my 2 cents, ok with gas prices now-a-days, my $3.00 worth... It seems to me (keep in mind I'm a critically-thinking outsider-lost 20+ yr ex to LGAT) that cult - technique groups use steps similar to a tide coming in, or great kisses,....slow, intermittent, wet (in this discussion, undermining to what the receiver is looking for), "back-door seduction of the mind! Whil
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
29. Amway
Jen615, I express regrets to you for what happened..I similarily (sp?) lost my wife with lec... IMO, You survived and even though scarred, will survive..it is a "jungle out there" and like our animal friends (some of the native species of this marble, they know that better than us) rest, heal, handle the piss-offness, look ahead, realize critically what took place and then
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
18 years ago
ULTAWARE
30. Amway
Also, let's all remember that a franchise owner is really simply in business, when you dig it out, TO SELL FRANCHISES! PERIOD! That's what the excel at! PAX
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
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