Found this while trying to explain to my new gf all the shit and abuse my ex's family and this cult put me through.
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Does anyone know if the MKP or the Woman Within are still active in Alberta Canada?
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Same for me, though I have no manuals, just first hand knowledge of their schemes and tricks. I wonder how the state of the economy is affecting these losers? Maybe less disposable income means less recruiting.
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No, he's always been homophobic, and believes it to be a mental illness. I'm just guessing he was so enamored with the whole MKP thing he missed the link. I think he is also disillusioned with the "wound worship" at the I groups, he's never been one to talk to long without action. Either way the homophobia is something we as a family can deal with, the MKP wasn't. I
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I know that the Woman Within in this area has pretty much dried up. No new trainings or open houses and alot of dropouts from their E-groups. But the warriors are having a training this weekend, I guess these losers just won't quit. I'm debating calling the local psych governing body and mentioning that a registered member of theirs is attending (in a non-official manner of course). Wy
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I see the Scinto lawsuit has been settled, and at the request of the MKP, sealed. However, some of the details were revealed prior to being sealed. Unfortunately I doubt if the MKP in houston or anywhere else has any intention of adhering to it. Anything new from anyone else?
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I was watching a children's show with my daughter the other day and noticed that some words now trigger a memory. I'm guessing this is thanks to my experience with the New Wierdo's Traing Adventure (Mankind project). The show was "the bear in the big blue house" and they were singing "oh where, oh where, oh where is shadow?" and I immediately thought of the MKP
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Ooh, I like that analogy. It fits most of the troublesome groups here. The LGAT I had the run in with (mankind project) recruits alot of AA members, I'll have to remember that next time someone brings up the MKP or WWI. Here, take this bottle, drink it but I don't want to spoil the gift that's inside, and "trust the process". What have you got to lose?
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I'm not sure, they have 5 UK weekends listed on their calender, but no locations (no surprise). It seems odd a group that does such important work would need to hide in the "shadow". On a side note they seem to have had quite a difficult year. At the EX/MKP forum there have been quite a few email memos (internal) which claim the chairman is resigning, there have been numerous l
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There's the start of a thread on the MKP at the freedom of mind yahoo group. Plus this topic appears to have been idle a while..... so bump.
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Anyone here familiar with the MKP's "planned giving" campaign? It sounds basically like a ploy to get people to sign them onto their wills. Amazing the depths they'll sink to for money especially as " a global leader in masculinity initiations" That's from one of their branches "the mankind foundation'. Just how many arms does a non-profit organization
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From my point of view it's because the groups need to introduce discourse into a marriage to justify their existance. If your members find happiness after the intial weekend seminar you don't stand to make alot of money. Take the Mankind project, the men's group (new warriors) teach that a man must "get his balls back" and that women (particularly those in powerful situ
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BTW, can anyone clarify a point for me. I'm looking for historical examples of "secret male initiations" All the examples I've found involved the entire community (male and female), and the initiate is free (and encouraged) to discuss it. Can anyone post some examples to the contrary?
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Hi Gina. I am willing to discuss what my wife has told of the procedures only. However we are still working on our relationship and I don't want to push her in the wrong direction, so I must be careful. The women's weekend has few of the confrontational aspects of the men's, but it uses alot of the same images for the hypnosis sessions. The castle fugures prominantly as does &q
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Thanks Wanderingbutnotlost. I'm unsure of which aspects are which, so I wanted clarification. They do use speaking stones, (Casting?) circles, sacred tables etc. As well the reference page I read from the WWI listed wiccan books as did the text. They also describe the difference between a bitch and a witch ("You're on the bitch's team now ladies!"). My wife has been quite
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Can anyone give me advice on the Wiccan aspects of the WWI or the NWTA. My wife and I have been discussing it lately and I want to make sure I don't give her wrong answers. Some of what they do remind me of witchcraft, but I don't know for sure. Are they really practising it?
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I'll second that. it's refreshing to see that the crap this (and other) groups put members and families through is not being ignored. It's good to come here and see you're not alone in the experiences.
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My wife's away at a business conference. I was so glad it came up, becasue this was to be her Woman Within BS weekend, and this will get her mind off the "women who just don't get it". Anyway, one of the speakers is Larry Winget (the pitbull of personal development.....) and was wondering if anyone knows anything about him. The reason I ask is she is constantly falling for stu
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Thanks Gina.
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What the doctors etc in question are supposed to do and what's happening seem to be very different. I know firsthand what the recruiters say to a person "the weekend is supervised by a licensed psychologist". I know the Dr (face only) from my weekend and he was very definately in one of the top positions. I think that in my case the recruiter forgot that this local psychologist can
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Did anyone notice in the pro-MKP comments (Dr. Kenneth Adler and 1 or 2 others), they mention the weekend IS staffed by trained psychologists and doctors. I'd like their governing bodies to see the involvement and comment on it. Especially since this is a "training" weekend and not therapy. So MKP supporters which is it? therapy staffed by trained professionals or an advent
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I like the first cmment about the suicide being the individual's fault. Becasue if you press an alcoholic, sex abuser or anyone with an addiction hard enough, the end result is always their fault. Isn't it? At least that's the impression I get from all the MKP people I've had the pleasure of listening to.
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That's an interesting (though long) read. I like the part about hering's scatterbrained etc. Notice the references to Justin Sterling and group therapr/psychology. Interesting note, the local Woman within chapter just had to cancel their training weekend for low enrollment. I hope it's a sign of things to come.
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I can only imagine what someone who is unprepared for any of these "seminars" goes through. It really bothers me to see some of the damage these groups are allowed to create. I know our local psychological governing body has already heard of the doctor who is recruiting as well as his wife and their involvement in th MKP. Unfortunately without more complaints etc there's li
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I personally would consider the MKP a step back in our society's evolution. Values and dynamics constantly change, it's part of the human experience. You're right quite a few of these individuals should go back into a cage.
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The problem I have with the compliments is that NONE of them come from outside of the MKP (NWTA). Why is there no research or official support from the APA or other governing bodies? If the weekend is so effective, this would be the next logical step. There are doctoral statements (all of which seem to cite the same single man as a contributor...Chris Burke, MKP's research director), and lot
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Of course you've heard good things about it. All from active members I'll bet. I went in the spring of this year and consider it a huge waste of time and money and a mistake. Please read the mankind project postings in this forum. I can't speak for others but I know that it described my weekend pretty accurately. My wife and I are finally starting to speak openly about her involvem
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At the New Wiener (Mankind Project) weekend I was "persuaded" to attend, we slept in a common area on a cement floor in sleeping bags. At about 02:00 when we went to bed, the room was slightly cold. About an hour later it was so hot everyone was outside their sleeping bags. All the while (about every 20 minutes) someone would slam a door, followed immediately by an cat in heat (
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Can anyone answer how the three founders of MKP met? Was it through another LGAT? I'm just curious how they knew each other? One's dead now (rod herring), he was killed over child molestation charges by a family member, Rick Tosi's wife is involved, she founded the woman within. Does bill Kauth still practise?
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Anyone heard from Margie? I hope all is well for her.
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