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16 years ago
maurice
I was in Landmark in London. If I can help...what did you need to know specifically?
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
QuoteJaredDC Do you think I could be OK doing the forum if I kept in mind when I went in that I was walking into a dangerous place, and made a commitment to myself in advance to not sign up for any advanced courses, not volunteer for Landmark, and not call anybody to "complete" past relationships and definitely not recruit anyone into Landmark, as well as avoided some of the freakier
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
Quoteajinajan Thoughts ? Let them eat Landmark!
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
QuoteON2 LFQuotecaligariIt takes energy to continually suppress information that keeps cracking through: Wow! What an informational 7:02 minutes! No doubt YouTube will soon have threats and whining to contend with, probably before the day is over. It is so encouraging to think of Landmark's walls of secrecy as a dam that is not only leaking all over the place but is breaking apart an
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
Quoteboonetahoe 1. I have no reason to want to hate LGATs. I haven't "lost" relationships, loved ones or money to an LGAT. The net result of the LGAT experience in my life over the last ten years has been good for my family, good for my marriage, good for my extended family and good for my career and friendships. Oh boy, if I had a pound for every time i heard "i don
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
QuoteboonetahoeThe principle behind the Large Group Awareness Training is as simple as it is universal: life can be better if we take time out to think about it (and to experience it from a distance.) Putting all of the issues relative to LGATs aside for a moment – the manipulation, the abuse of power, the spiritualistic excesses – the general idea behind group training is that we can possibly
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
Sorry i think the quote was originally from Zorro and not Martin
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
QuoteMartinH What were they saying about Mother Teresa's work? I don't recall much if anything. There are many objections that a guest or a rebel landmarkian can raise in their classes. One of the most hated is the 'for-profit' argument. It goes like "if you are all about love, commitment and saving the world, why do you charge people? why don't you go no
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
QuoteyutoliaThis strikes me as similar to Landmark's practice of claiming past people of great importance "did not have access to the Forum but embodied it's meaning" and that these people would have been "enrolled" if they had the opportunity. People like Martin Luther King and Gandhi that actually probably would have run screaming from the Forum had
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
Did he invite you to an intro at his house? a 'home introduction'? S**t. When they give their own houses for the introductions, it's a bad sign. My advise is: DO NOT go there. Cancel it. Home introductions are designed to recruit those who won't even come to their centers. They're much pushier because of the more intimate and trusted setting . Plus, there's a cha
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
QuoteThe ShadowQuoteON2 LFI wonder if there's a landmarkian term for 'bigamy' or 'child abandonment', or 'child abuse'? Hi 'ON2 LF - YEP, I think there is: I think it is called "transforming your life".... :lol: regards, 'shad' More precisely, they'd be: "double commitment" aka "being unr
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
QuoteajinajanQuoteajinajanQuoteZorroWhat do you all think about Landmarks "Landmark 2020" goal of having everyone on the planet "Transformed" by the year 2020? " Landmark 2020 " -- ??? Sounds like the name of a freakay George Romero movie ... Here is a "2020" movie with some zombies Watch it before the planet
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
Quotejoe6What Landmark does over the next 10 years depends on the "Second Coming" of Werner Erhard from exile. If he shows up in San Francisco giving seminars again, his followers will be energized and unstoppable. A devotee of his did a "documentary", funded by Erhard's former lawyer. Werner is not out of the picture at all. See this thread: Uns
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
QuotebigdogWhile reading all the info here on Landmark, I find myself wondering about their ultimate purpose. Can anyone tell me what it is? Yes, I know they are after money. But sooner or later, their rank and file have to become financially depleted. And new recruits have to eventually become harder and harder to find. Then what? Political power? World domination? I can't seem
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
QuotebigdogI'd never heard of Landmark until reading this forum. It sounds pretty "out there". Can someone who has been to one of their meetings (or whatever they are called) please explain to me what drew you there? I understand why people go if it was recommended by a doctor or therapist, and I guess I can understand going to please a friend or loved one, but I'
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
QuoteON2 LF I don't understand how she could use this mess as a success story. She tried and failed to recruit me, and failed to keep the friendship in the process. I can see being referred to as someone who was just holding her back that she walked away from, but not a success. At least I hope not. How exactly does landmark re-define the term success? Success in landmarkia is whatever the
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
QuoteON2 LF I struggle with the thought that, in landmarkia, no one has a true friend. If a person snaps out of the lekkie trance, they've got no one left to be there for them. If I walk or run, my friend is left in the same boat. Where is the healthy boundary? That's true. If I hadn't kept my normal friends, If they didn't keep in touch with me even when - especially when -
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
As for me, feel free to quote my posts.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
16 years ago
maurice
Quoteajinajan Are they shooting themselves in the foot with these videos with what some refer to as "thought reform" or jargon, as in from the concepts put forth by Dr. Robert Lifton ? Yes, they are shooting themselves in the foot! The first guy is actually making free publicity to Outrageous Betrayal and the cult issue. When I started to have enough of landmark, I thought I w
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
Quotemindconcern For anyone who might think this is a publicity stunt to publicize the method, please message me. We can exchange numbers, and I will discuss in detail any why questions you may have. For anyone who might think giving their numbers away so easily, see my and other's posts about what happens when you do something like that.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
I went to the office to complain about the call. They denied the call was made from the office. I have also told me that to call me again was illegal. They said they understood that. The moment they say they understand that, i showed my recorder and let them know that everything was taped. That really took them aback. They asked me to leave or they would call the police. "OH YES! Call t
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
Quoteyutoliamaybe change your phone number. make it unlisted. i know this sounds simple, but sometimes the simplest things can work to foil these malicious corporations. I know I could, but I'd prefer to save it as the very last desperate measure. You see, it's a principle thing. I have done nothing wrong. I am the one who's been conned, deceived. I'm the one humiliated and
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
Quoteajinajan Is there a person in the local police force or the government that you can complain to about this harassment, instead of getting nowhere with the company? I doubt the police will see a case in 'how are you' calls. But I will call them if Landmark keeps calling me after my complains.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
I've been away from this forum for a little while because i got myself a holiday to recharge myself and let go of all the things that have come to my life in this last year, from the Landmark seminar to the discovery of the truth to my recovery. I've been feeling better and better day by day, week by week. My rage started to fade, especially after i finished my revision of the forum, w
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
Quoteajinajan An interesting story, and some of us here would tend to believe it, but it doesn't do a wit of anything without something more substantial to back up that information that supposedly money from the Hunger Project goes to Landmark Education, and/or vice versa. Perhaps more information on this angle will come out in the future. I know. I'm just spreading out what they say
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
Quoteajinajan " Landmark Education took all the money from the Hunger Project. " ??? Any more information / specifics on this interesting tidbit ? Unfortunately, I don't have anything more than that. I was arguing with this guy, a SELP leader and ex-friend of mine, about Landmark, EST and Werner Erhard, and I mentioned the Hunger Project and I quoted the same thing quoted by
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
Quotesoullovemiawhile as a man, this person may have made some big mistakes, this work has had avery powerful positive influence on many people and those two things should be separated. He's not exactly 'separated' from the company's profits tho..
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
QuotePassionate Yes i agree that this is one of Impact's philosophies. That's why I wrote them out. Ii thought those were some of their pre-determined responses. Maurice noted a few more, in a different vein. NO I did not! That's not what i posted, go back and check. STOP TWISTING MY ANSWER. Call me names, ignore me but don't you ever misquote me for your agenda.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
QuotePassionateMaurice, I agree with you. I was saying the thoughts they might be having, and you were associating the feeling. All of those thought could have those feelings associated with them. Fear, submission, stress...all definitely meant to clobber the trainee over the head and get them to do it Impact's way. One prevalent thing that the trainees, while not asked to see but th
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
maurice
QuotePassionateNo answers here. Former, could you take one process, say Lifeboat, and tell us what you saw were "predetermined responses" that Impact wanted them to have? Here's what I think would be a few pre-determined responses, and there may be many: 1. I see that I don't value myself, and I will value myself in the future. I come first. 2. There is something
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