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14 years ago
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I was moved by what Corboy wrote: "Exactly. Concern for the well being of one's fellow seekers has to be part of genuine spiriutal practice. Even if you do not experience harm first hand, if you keep hearing consistent reports that others in your spiritual community are being tampered with, if that spiritual path and its teacher are at all effective at instilling compassion as well a
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14 years ago
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A reply to SeenIt: You say: “Would I call this a dangerous cult? Obviously, according to some in this forum, it is. The most bothersome I've read here are the stories about sex - I've not heard that but I do know a former member who told me something very disturbing happened to them and when they said it, I got the impression it was sexual. But I don't know first hand. But fr
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14 years ago
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A reply to sandered: You ask: Do they really believe that those of us who do not choose their path are less evolved because we have the ability to find spirituality in our own lives without turning ourselves over to this charlatan? Or are they just fooling themselves? There is a psychological process that occurs in RW from the very first retreat, primarily intriguing due to its mystery.
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14 years ago
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A reply to Popcorn: It was mentioned in a previous post: ....."Broaden your view, step away from the euphoric high he is so good at creating (like a dope dealer creating dependence) and see the corruption. "...... I have seen this "euphoric high" in my friend. What causes it and how is it sustained? What you see is a person who wants to bring you into their Royal Way w
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15 years ago
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QuoteThe AnticultThe key is to get one's mind out of the clouds of "spirituality" and try to take a look under the hood, and see how the sausage is made. The key is to itemize and analyze each technique being used by the Guru. This is why they all try to kill the "Ego" and get you to follow orders without thinking, and pacify you to Surrender the Ego to the Guru. It’s
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15 years ago
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QuoteMisterAEIOUThere was mention of some sort of "exposé" in the works. Is this still in the works? Also, it seems that its been a very long while since any posters claiming to be members have posted. What gives? This is an open forum that accepts input from anybody. Are those folks still members? Have they stopped caring? Is their official response the new website? This is clear
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15 years ago
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QuoteFred Stevenson The sad fact is, Michael uses great teachings to serve his EGO. When he aids in someone’s growth, whether spiritual or psychological it’s a hook. First he finds your main issues, second he publicly flogs you with them (causing humiliation), and third he publicly helps you work through them (power play). At psychology Michael has a gift, he can and does help many with big iss
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15 years ago
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Quoteknowledge reigns supreme After reading this thread, I know that I have to do something to get my loved ones out of their dependence on Michael and RW. But I know I have to be strategic about it, or I might push them further away. I've contemplated giving them an ultimatum: me or RW. Is there anyone on here that has gotten their loved one(s) out of RW or are trying to? I came on here
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16 years ago
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Anyone going on this first level weekend in October?
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16 years ago
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Reich employed an unusual therapeutic method. He used touch to accompany the talking cure, taking an active role in sessions, feeling his patients' chests to check their breathing, repositioning their bodies, and sometimes requiring them to remove their clothes, so that men were treated wearing shorts and women in a bra and panties. These methods caused a split between Reich and the rest of
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16 years ago
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A reply to Stop rw: I would like you to see that your over dramatic postings are not helpful. I am not a fan of Royal Way and would also like to see the missing pieces of the puzzle come up here. Like you said, this is the only site (for now) that is available to view the group. Please think of the fact that almost 1000 people view this site on a good week. These are many family members of peo
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16 years ago
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I think it is a complete waste of time to be talking about Brough Joy. First of all, the only connection is the land that he sold and that Royal Way purchased. All legit and on record. Second, this takes away from the serious issues that are being posted here. This website is an important tool for people checking out the group prior to attending a retreat. It is best to keep the information factu
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16 years ago
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Quotewithone The last time I checked, RW has no interest in the welfare of the general public or the needy community. No interest but self interest. Do you think people in Royal Way are using their critical thinking when wasting money on indulging the malignant narcissist Michael? He is only a human, with flaws. Enough said.
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17 years ago
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QuoteFreemind Many might imagine that the money she has spent has been well worth the overall benefit that has come to her. However, it appears odd that over time, her conversations have become more centered on what Michael has to say about this subject or that subject. She loves to expound on all sorts of mystical and meditative ideas which frankly seem to be a repetition of something she has le
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17 years ago
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Why do you want Michael's picture? Also it would be better if you posted on the Royal Way thread and not start new topics. More people will view the original thread and your questions and comments will not go unnoticed.
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17 years ago
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QuoterrmoderatorTo whom it may concern: I received a letter today (dated November 20th) from an attorney representing the Royal Way by the name of Deborah Drooz, with the firm Stroock and Stroock in Los Angeles, New York and Miami. Ms. Drooz advised that Royal Way is "a California-based religious organization incororated under IRS Code 501 (c) (3)." And is therefore "exempt f
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17 years ago
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QuoteThere has been much uninformed conjecture and deliberate misrepresentations about Royal Way posted on this forum. To dispel at least some of this false information, I submit the following: 8. At no Royal Way retreat has any participant ever disrobed, been asked to disrobe or anything of that nature. This really deserves exposure. While I was a member in Royal Way and most recently,
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17 years ago
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QuoteSharon NaderI One final question. Every day, the two great opiates of our time – television and the internet - enslave millions of Americans, whose beings are so filled with trivia and garbage that they have profoundly lost any sense of their own worth, their own possibilities. Why is it that this gets no attention whatsoever from people who profess to be so concerned about protecting our
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17 years ago
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QuoteThe Anticult They are then connected with local wireless technology to a main computer, and all the data is sent by broadband to a central media room, and recorded and archived. Then the cult leader can sit back in his/her secret media room, and watch, and listen in on their followers. Most cult leaders are paranoid anyway, so this helps them look for "enemies". but it also gives
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17 years ago
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QuoteAnother MemberAnon1234: I too am a member of Royal Way. I have been reading the unspeakable lies about Royal Way that you and a few others have posted on this website. I chose not to respond because I did not want to be a part of such unpleasant, low level interactions. But I can no longer remain silent. What is this strange obsession of yours? You keep spewing this nonsense abou
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17 years ago
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QuoteThe Anticult Case 29315VSMG Defendant 2047890 GOTTLIEB, MICHAEL M FAILURE TO YIELD, FAIL TO STOP Name YOB Case Number Filing Date Count 1 Charge GOTTLIEB, MICHAEL M 1928 29315VSMG 04/06/2005 VC I21802(A) There is also a civil suit listed as well, PI Motor Vehicle Case VCVVS038596 - NELSON -V- GOTTLIEB ETAL GOTTLIEB, MICHAEL M DEFENDANT
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17 years ago
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QuotewithoneHere's another insight to the Royal Way operation. Most of us know that the RW members have these small group sessions somewhere in LA area. I'm not sure what the purpose of these sessions are, but I do know that when these members get together they share intimate details of their lives. For instance, family troubles, financial, medical, professional...etc. We also know th
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