Perhaps, IMO, because he was a salesperson (read: really "money-lusting") his mantra was that...to dominate the "prey" so they would part with their sweat-earned cash easily... ever really get into the head of a GREAT straight - comm salesperson? If yes, you understand...(yes it IS narcisstic ..."all about ME")
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I agree... Not only the SGS in action (Short Guy Syndrome) but actually SsGLS ["See-gulls"?] - (Short Scientology Guy..ah, do the math yourself......) Nicole left a solid reason - since or since during, he has changed (could 'a used transformed ) I saw him on a 1-1 interview & he was "zonked-like"...if no script the old cassette plays......????????????
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G, Do or any others have a sense that Oprah may have been lec-"compromised" in the past ? (or some other group?) just curious... THaNX...
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All you folks, Are you seeing the, ok, any connection between the media & control of the "herd" (us)? What comes 1st, the media techniques or invasive group techs? IMO, we are programmed by our societies....ladies-> make-up, dressing according to the "code" (if you disagree, tell me why y'all are dressing, still, like Madonna 1st did or why y'al
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Vam-V, I hope that you do not mind that nickname.... I feel (having lost my soulmate of 22 yrs to a lgat (not worth "capping" anymore) Glam's responses have been right on it! Try to be supportive, (I was or so I thought, but early on did not know what powerful shit this was.. Do what you can now to educate yourself on this group (R Ross is the best start) then, con
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To all of you posters, Do you still find it amazing that we have (in various ways) been affected by these techniques and over the years they have not changed? powerful crap, eh? I endured my ex's "lec succulation" and oh what memories all these posts brought back (logically not emotionally -I miss what we had but not "who/what " she is now) A lot of your posts re
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Well, I guess I'll pay my 2 cents -worth here....now remember I ave not been 'Influenced" myself but watched what happened with my mate for 22 yrs... again, if she was getting a cold I could tell, if she had had a bad/sstress-filled day at work...I knew (physical & sensing clues)... After she started LEC...she was not at all who she really was...there was a cassette tap
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Mjr40 & Toni, I realize that what I am going to say may not mean much now, however I will trudge on with it....you both seem to be involved with a lot of inner strength, which is prob why you are able, today, to be posting here..."keep - the - faith" of yourselves, ALWAYS! With souls like you laying-out your true feelings, you help the truth to be "out there!"
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Ellen, Speaking from having witnessed "close-up & personal" the things that I did, it fits exactly what you described of my ex and the post LEC being that she became.... I appreciate, always, your angle, and the info that you provide. Keep the faith.... :lol: PAX
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MD, Thank you for your legal logic...but what area of American law do you have exoertise but 1st-most, are you a LEC grad?
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CB, Just ashort THaNX about being on "top-o-it" . What you have stated seems to be right atop of what I experienced first-hand without hte knowledge/understanding of what was going on.... Since this "stuff" is wrung out of their own minds (supposedly by themselves) it has such strength...and as time goes on the LEC brain-meld becomes more & improved -moving event
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D--- good words of advice from Elena.....suffice it to say I was in the rocking boat that your have been abruptly tossed into to grasp as it sinks in shark waters .... this is highly volatile stuff on both the vics and connective relations like us...you seem to grasping this in the best way- logic 1st..then gut-reading..I have always been a proponent of "gut - sensing" - my descriptive.
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Shirelle, I feel the pain you must be enduring right now. I lost my best friend (now ex-wife) to the LEC talons. I tried everything I could (including an exit-counseling atttempt) !st, please realize/get/inhale/understand-in-the-core what you are facing (other RRoss articels, Freedom pf the mind site, etc) knowledge IS power. Get to know the enemy before you try to deal with it's
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midonov123 (hope I got that correct_if not I apologize!) civil suits are created by groups of individuals who feel that they have been "wronged" legally in the US in a similar way by s similar legal entity...so it is possible to try to apply legal bumble bees to cult-technique-using entities, which seems the only sensory thing that they listen to (perhaps why they truly might only be
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midonov123 (hope I got that correct_if not I apologize!) civil suits are created by groups of individuals who feel that they have been "wronged" legally in the US in a similar way by s similar legal entity...so it is possible to try to apply legal bumble bees to cult-technique-using entities, which seems the only sensory thing that they listen to (perhaps why they truly might only be
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hsuchij, When my e...x (man, it still is tough to put ex & wife (of 20 yrs) together) wife was LEC-ing, it was, along with all the pain, grief, frustration, anger, love, disjointedness (awesome English eh?), AND vengence (sp?) what later became clearer was the B-effect...how her flutter (Decision to Forum-ize herself), , affected so many family members, in so many negative ways....
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mindonov123, Man, you seem to be in the closet situation to what I went thru with my wife of 22 y=ears...we were true "soulmates". in order to keep boredom away I'll just be short....after 1 LEC FOR-'em [ (;-) ] weekend we (our lives together)became the proverbial top-o-mountain sliding snowball - similar to the things you have been experiencing. Now, after my loss, it s
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Isn't interesting, the conservative pulse of the in-powerl groups globally today?
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse

Strait talk, I appreciate your comments....but possibly you might not yet harbor enough information. Your comments sound as if you feel that they were meant to be personal v.s. yourself....ask yourself logically why you might feel that way. Is there any chance at all, that you might have been violated mentally, without you even knowing it? ("I can't tell you what happens at the Foru
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Sarah, Elena & et al..... Y'all are right on it.....but ....now that we seem to grasp most of it, after the "conversation" (I'd rather prefer "talking", since LEC deteriorated this word) with our LEKKIES, what possibly can we do when that type of talking don't work? (language done with a purpose...) I, along with others or even a multtitude who do no
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Glam & Toni, As usual, you are both right-on-it as usual, IMO
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Nativeflower, Leopaqrd Girl, Toni, et al, What wonderful heartful comments... I was on the path before seeking "spirituality", spiritual stuff..new age crap... until I lost a retail store, my house and most importantly...my true soul-mate, because of LEC.. But not to digress, I find a "supreme being(not necesarily male) in a healing wound, a woman's smile..a lovers
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

But Hope, he was/is vulnerable thru being a con - artist no? Possibly, even the more intelligent one is, the more vulnerable/susceptible one might be? Irregardless, the point is they have all been IMO, "back-doored" thru having laid out before the deception, exactly what it is they were looking for. My ex-wife, after being involved with another hypno/rip-off group simultaneously
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence

Dave 11, It may appear that they have chosen but most likely, they were in a highly vulnerable state and were "fed" exactly what they wanted/needed to hear for bait, then got hooked, then fleeced: mentally, emotionally and financially. It works only on the vulnerable, the ones who have their critical - thinking web turned off. You sound as if you are close to someone who got in
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Hype, I can discuss REAL experience with a Lekkie (my now ex-wife [still find it tough to use that ex word & wife together) of 20 yrs) We had something alot of folks never get to enjoy...finding a true soulmate... In 1 weekend (Forum) our lives were manipulated & changed forever... With all you have said and comments of others..I might suggest to you to follow your hear
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Toni, Your feedback is IMO right -arm, I mean right - on! Even though I am a second-hand ("smoke")survivor, I am just amazed as to how similar the experience you have had AND what I had with my ex are (of course NOT the same degree!) Isn't ia amaze (ing) how similar the techniques that are used and results are? (mass production/all-come-out-as little-boxes-quite-the-sam
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families

Do ya ever notice (when thinking logically) how apparent some things are...like "zombie-like" behavior at the Tues night guest nite or the how most come out of the "self-improve" class looking all-so-the-same rather than having had themselves improved in individual ways AND how 'bout that zealot thing that they all show? :cry: PAX
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Coz, I agree on alot of your post. George Orwell would be proud of seeing the manipulation and control that TV & marketing have done in relation to his forsight writing.... I have, for many years uttered this after witnessing/sensing some weird stuff we humane beings do.[ "WASASS" (Modi 1997) = we are such a strange species ] :shock: A girl I used to work with in th
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As "yuse" Coz, you're right on-it! I would guess that I'm not the only one that appreciates that! Similarities with other groups abound between the line or just change the names.... PAX
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After my ex became "LEC-ized", she would talk often about DC on and on....and he would only charge $45 for a ticket.. I have always felt that if someone has been given a special gift...that it should be shared with all humans....freely period! If a so - called talent charges a fee, ask why, and listen objectively and attentively to the non-answer.......... PAX
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