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12 years ago
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rrmoderator: I have asked this already and I'll ask you again and this time I'm hoping you'll answer: Have you read any of their books? Have you listened to any of their lectures? If not, you're making assumptions based on very little information.
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12 years ago
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I don't think my posts go back and forth at all. There are positive aspects and negative aspects and I'm presenting both sides of the story, the good and the bad. "Should the victims of supposedly spiritual confidence schemes take responsibility, if they were conned and deceived?" If someone chooses to quit their job or rack up their credit card bills, yes, they should t
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12 years ago
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It seems like you picked out the words "pro-cult" and neglected to read the rest of my post. It clearly was NOT in support of cults or of con artists. Have you read any of their books? I have read almost all of them and I have seen them live and I have heard what they teach. I'll repeat, I am not sticking up for them. I am not victim bashing. I am not saying they are good or ba
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12 years ago
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By pro-cult side I mean I wanted to make a statement towards the argument that Abraham-Hicks could be considered a cult. Not to say that cults are a good thing. Part of what I've said has been that they are not a cult. I wanted to add some evidence that does support the claim that they are a cult. I'm not victim bashing. My purpose of posting here is to discuss whether or not Abraham
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12 years ago
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I also want to add a note to the pro-cult side of the discussion. Because there is a lot of room for interpretation and because there is a lot of contradiction in the teachings, a lot of people are somewhat led astray. They put their faith in the words "you can be, do or have anything you desire" and instead of working hard they do nothing and wish and hope their lives away. I can�
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12 years ago
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rrmoderator: I don't know the Hick's personally so I can't speak on their behalf but your statement "Seems like what you are describing is business designed to make money from "channeling" claims. " sounds fairly accurate. I don't know if their #1 reason for the business is to make money or if it is to help people in some way. I suspect it's a bit
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12 years ago
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rrmoderator: there isn't a board or anything like that because the business of Abraham-Hicks isn't really an organization. Esther Hicks is a motivational speaker who claims that the information she speaks and writes about it channeled. What seems more cult-like are the groups that have formed around the Teachings of Abraham. Like the forums. It is free to join but you are not allowe
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12 years ago
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According to the Cult Information Centre a cult is something that has all 5 of these issues in common: What is a Cult? Every cult can be defined as a group having all of the following five characteristics: 1. It uses psychological coercion to recruit, indoctrinate and retain its members 2. It forms an elitist totalitarian society. 3. Its founder leader is self-appointed, dogmatic,
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12 years ago
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Harleygal: I have major beefs with Abraham-Hicks but I can tell you that the way your husband is behaving is NOT in alignment with the Teachings of Abraham. It sounds like he's being a selfish, spoiled, terribly negative person. Abraham does teach people to be "selfish" but not in that way. To many, the idea that you are here to look after yourself first is a revaluation. (like
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12 years ago
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Some of the information is useful & motivational. The problem I have with Abraham-Hicks is that they say the information is coming from a being, from "source" or God. That makes people who follow them believe everything they say. But I notice that Esther doesn't always know the answer to a question. People say, "oh but she never stops talking, it flows so well, it must be
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12 years ago
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I don't think Hay House is a cult. Some of their authors might not be 100% honest but I don't think the company itself is a cult.
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12 years ago
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The Hickses spend most of the year traveling the country, leading workshops based on the teachings they say Abraham has given them. They record the workshops and have 10,000 subscribers, who pay up to $50 a month for CDs and DVDs of Abraham’s wisdom. Just up to $50 a month for CDs? I was a member of their CD club and ended up spending a few hundred every month, I had to cancel because it wa
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