<<Quoteleft_of_the_dialSuzyQ, I appreciate the clarification. I suppose we just might have to agree to disagree about Eckhart Tolle though. All he teaches, as far as I can tell, is the importance of quieting the mind and being aware of the present moment.>> My friend at Pearson publishing (the world's largest assessment publisher) has only last week informed me of a work in p
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Anyone heard/know of this one? Paralegal Research Advocates:
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes

Anything on Freedom Club USA?
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes

Thank you, to the individual who replied privately. I don't think anyone else need reply now. I know what I need to do. CNFT
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Has anyone here ever gotten their loved-one back from Landmark or similar after so long? If so how? I'd appreciate some insight and/or advice. If my friend's still on the fence, how can I help her to see without making her more obstinate? If she's still mowing the grass on the other side, should I just call it quits and write her off for good? I hesitate to do the last, for it'
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Hello anyone: Were you searching to better yourself and/or your circumstances, but instead you got burned by being coerced into something that didn't really suit you? Does this sound like you too? While not all members of the following groups are guilty of this, nevertheless enough are that I ask you the following: Are you repelled and appalled by smug, patronzing, know-it-all
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups

QuoteAcid ReindeerQuoteLandmark = Existentialism (atheistic) + New Age Philosophy (Polytheistic) = logical contradiction?!!!! new age belief systems (not the plural) go from pantheistic to animist to monotheistic to soft polytheism, which beliees in multiple manifestations of God/Godhead to hard polytheism, which believes that deities have individual existence. you may even atheistics and agnos
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Alriiiiiiiiighty then, let's examine the implied message shall we? Quote#1 &lt;&lt;Lets examine the numbers. 0.000023 people make it in MLMs. But people buy lottery tickets. Why? Because it's easy and they can blame the system if it doesn't work.&gt;&gt;CloseQuote Jumpmaster's first statements try to make it seem as though MLM's having the sa
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes

QuoteAcid Reindeermidonov123, Landmark doesn't have gurus, not in the classic sense. a guru-chela relationship consists of the teacher (guru) and a student or acolyte (chela). more broadly, a guru can mean a spiritual teacher who may have influence on followers he or she has never met. pretty much by definition, a guru has their own school or at least their own branch of an existing schoo
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteVicarionFor my money, Emerson said it best: "The mind does not create what it perceives, any more than the eye creates the rose." Happy Holidays to all. ~V Hello V: Toward the end of his life, Emerson was asked by a clergyman if he'd made his peace with God. Emerson replied that he'd not been aware that they had quarreled. Perhaps that very same clergyman also
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

I can't believe I'm posting here on my day off, sheeesh! :oops: I guess I need to work on my reality creation, huh? :wink: I sometimes think that the trouble with Landmark's flirtations with manifestation theory is that they horribly confuse philosophy with metaphysics. Existentialism seems to bear the closest resemblance to landmark. Existentialism is a wholly atheis
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteVicarionQuoteQ: Anxious, guilty, depressed, sick, beaten, robbed, stuck in a death camp, lost an appendage, dying...? A: Well... you created that! It's YOUR responsibility, and YOU'RE the one who should apologize for it. I get to feel smug because I'm not like you, so I get to berate you. My obersvation: Alrighty then, so lets blame the victim for not being perfect, om
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteVicarionI have about as much respect for the field of psychology as I do for organized religion (in other words zilch), but CBT is a sane approach in the midst of a lot of nuttiness. Too much psychology seems to have more in common with "alternative (hocus-pocus) healing" than with science. We do spend entirely too much time "performing" for others in our lives, don&#
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoteColdnosesandfluffytailsThose of you who are into psychometrics and psychologicial assessments may be interested in taking an assessment that empowers you to ascertain your susceptibility forming irrational decisions based, in part, on inapprorpriate external influences whether they be of your own making or those purposely inflicted upon you by others. It's called the Dysfunctional A
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Everyone: Feel free to contribute your own. I'd love to see some new material myself, because after this "I got nothin'." CNFT Time to poke fun at myself: Q: How many psychology majors does it take to fix a light bulb? A: Hard to say, but we'd first help the bulb to make sure that its decision wasn't based on irrational thinking, next help it to fee
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Humor They say one of the first things to go is a sense of humor... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How many Forum leaders does it take to change a lightbulb? Forum leaders don't change lightbulbs, because the Forum is not meant to solve any problems which are better addressed by a physican, psychiatrist or electrician. Inste
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Those of you who are into psychometrics and psychologicial assessments may be interested in taking an assessment that empowers you to ascertain your susceptibility forming irrational decisions based, in part, on inapprorpriate external influences whether they be of your own making or those purposely inflicted upon you by others. It's called the Dysfunctional Attitude Scale or DAS. Wh
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

DAS Assessment: A preventative "flu" shot Those of you who are into psychometrics and psychologicial assessments may be interested in taking an assessment that empowers you to ascertain your susceptibility forming irrational decisions based, in part, on inapprorpriate external influences whether they be of your own making or those inflicted upon you by others. It's called th
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence

QuoteQuestionEverythingQuotefoodguypdxSo, to say it again, the Forum is like going to a restaurant...if you like what happened then it could be called a good experience, if you did not like what happened then it could be called a bad experience. It is up to YOU to decide for yourself. Because, what you call bad and what the next person calls bad could very well be 2 entirely different things.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

&lt;&lt;Before you judge something I suggest that you do more than one sided research. To say it another way "3 out of 5 dentists recommend...." ok. Which 3 out of which 5 are we talking about? Don't damn me for what I do and I won't damn you, how about that. Stop your hate and anger for a moment. Just consider that what you call wrong someone else callls right an
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

&lt;&lt;In closing, I invite any INTELLIGENT response to this post. If you have taken the Forum or Advanced Course and had a bad experience, then you had a bad experience, much like at a restaurant. If you have participated and have realized positive results then it is the same as a good restaurant experience. It is all in how you take it and where you take it.&gt;&gt; &
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Being a poor graduate student, I'm often on the lookout for PT work, and if it actually pays more than a mere subsistence-wage as defined by NPR. Today I saw something. SIXTEEN bucks an hour in their "set up and display" areas, clean work, must look professional, flexible PT hours. It was just within the maximum commute radius, sounded just good enough to be true, yet vague eno
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes

It appears that some Landmarkians have taken to revising the Wikipedia decriptions of Landmark. Perhaps some of you here with a differing point of view, with a flair for writing, might want to put in your two cent's worth:
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuoterrmoderatorTimmer: You have offered no scientific evidence to support any healing claim or even cited research or tests to prove anything. Sai Baba is someone with a deeply troubled history of scandal. His "ideas," reportedly have been to prey upon boys and young men for sex using his "guru" status to gain undue influence and advantage. If this is evidence of enl
Forum: Destructive Churches

To whom it may concern: A common strategy with questionable businesses is the name change. I did a little digging, found out that EcoQuest was formerly Alpine. I then found and/or was made aware of all of the following and subsequenlty sent it to my coworker: CNFT ************************************************************* ********************************************************
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes

Hi there! Are you a complete idiot, n'er do well and/or slacker who dreams of laying around all day while the money just comes rolling in? Well have I got an opportunity for you! Hurry while the best areas are still available! BUY IT NOW! YOU KNOW THAT UNLESS YOU DO YOU'LL ALWAYS WONDER! DON"T BE A WEENIE! JUST IMAGINE: You'll be wildly popular, and the
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes

QuoteOs WilkesQuoteoysterAs a former rep, I had no problems with them. I can say that it is certainly not for everybody. With Vector/Cutco, you are an independant agent, not an employee. You get paid commissions based on your sales, no steady salary. It requires a lot of discipline, hard work, and self-motivation. If you can't do it, then you will not succeed. And as I learned, most pe
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QuoterichardmgreenMany years ago one of the Popes said that men needed to "approach their wives in holiness" etc.. Senator Earl Butz then retorted "he no playa da game, he no maka de rules." WWIII just about commenced after that. But really, the clergy abuse from what I've heard existed all the time. I'm Jewish and I tend to have a big mouth about certain th
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse

QuoterrmoderatorSounds like denial along with rationalizations and a bit of blaming the victim. Isn't this just another MLM. If it functions the same way as when it used to be called A.L. Williams then, yes, it is. While we were expected to sell the product, they really tried to pushed our greed buttons by saying that if we had x amount of downline we could just sit home and the money
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes

QuoterrmoderatorBlaming those who lose money on such business schemes is not a meaningful response. Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) is plagued with complaints, lawsuits and financial losses. It is most often the system itself and not the participants, which causes failure within many MLM schemes. See This research paper explains the inherent structural and marketing flaws that cause so m
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