Their picture of "paradise" is suburbia! yech! Give me the city or give me the wilderness, but all those mowed lawns and trimmed hedges? uh-uh. Ain't converting me to THAT.
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This is not about common crimes of adults against children which are just as much committed by secular as well as religious people and I don't see what your problem with someone else's "vow of chastity" has to do with the problem of cults in the church or anywhere else. The fact that a man or a woman took a vow of chastity has nothing to do with the crime. It is completely irr
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"I feel so ashamed that I let go of my family and friends because of this Guru who was able to put me into a state of disorientation. I literally lived like this for a whole year. Completely ridiculous." I bet they are glad to have you back. Don't worry about feeling ashamed. That is just the shock of looking at our old self with new eyes. It is a sign of growth. It will pass an
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It is also a good idea to link directly to the page in which there is a post related to a topic in the other location where you are placing the link, or at least to mention "look at the fourth post on page ## for more about this..."
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Well, you have a point, but it is related to many events that are being dealt with. Much of that scandal happened during the same period we could not stop the government from funding art shows of photographs of little boys being raped, if you recall, remember Mapplethorpe? Those families who faced ineffective Bishops also faced ineffective secular authorities, too, and so the hush-hush atmosphere
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Now the mention of the "Tridentine Latin Rite" is very interesting. David Romo Guillen, the voodoo-esque Santa Muerte cult priest has used the same name to refer to his "church". Now here is a very interesting link to the Tridentine group's own report on a conference. They are a pretty free-wheeling group, not at all cultic in the sense of following the same line of t
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Frank de Sales? "Trojan", you are kidding, right? This is the novel: "Devil's Island" This is Saint Francis de Sales, who died in 1622: Why should anyone have to reveal their private life if they wrote a novel? SSPX is a group of Catholics who chose to preserve an older form of the Liturgy of the Mass. It really is no more "kooky" than people w
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This is sooo much what I have been trying to get at! I was expected to do all of this when I was in NatLFed and they were thoroughly entangled with using the arts to promote serious political mind-control propaganda but because it was done outside the actual NatLFed office (it was cadres inside each and every committee in town) no one would ever beleive me. Look through my different threads
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I am somewhat familiar with the group, but have not been a member. I have not heard of any problems with people "breaking free" so I would be interested in hearing your story.
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This group is coming close to a final decision in the Catholic church. There has been controversy surrounding the Franciscan order with it. My personal opinion, as a Catholic, is to favor those who do not support it because it is very "new-agey" compared to approved apparitions. I faced a lot of pressure from enthusiasts way back in the 90's over it and everything I heard from them
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Was David Berg a fat guy with a beard whose acolytes wore white robes when they visited a campus to evangelize for him back in the 1970's?
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I have seen some forums where the admin can mark a post "irrelevant" and that hides the post so that a long page-gobbling spam will not cause people to fail to read the rest of the thread. But if they are curious they can click and see the offending post. If you had this ability here and allowed others to report/request this mark on a post, then you would not have to spend any time
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Here are some more links showing the organized aspect of this cult. Unlike common occult practices, in which a young person might dabble and then move on, the Santa Muerte is a gateway to serious gang enslavement and so an uninformed youngster trying to fit in by getting a tattoo that he thinks is just Mexican Catholic may unwittingly expose himself to demands of the organized gangs. If the cult
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Sparky, some of the law enforcement investigations have commented on some common elements in the original ethnic roots between santeria and the Santa Muerte because they both are voodoo-related which has strong elements of involvement with death and "spiritual slavery" (for want of a better term) but I have not seen anything at all that connects the Santeria religious cult with actual o
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Zeuszor, thank you for the detailed notes about your involvement with the Twelve Tribes, which apparently is not McKay-related at all. May I ask what motivates you to so openly go into other cults, whether or not they are related to the cult you exitted? Professional cult investigators generally avoid membership. If they go into a cult to observe it on behalf of a client, they of course w
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Sparky, you may be right about Oerlikon's intent but the posting of links without comment and experience in another thread in which he posts long lists of links bothered me. In the other thread I could not get him to stop trying to turn it into a discussion of a political group that is active in Brazil and is not one of the cults we are facing here in the USA. Perhaps I did over-react a li
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There is a Twelve Tribes cult up in New England. Do they have anything to do with McKay? Do they share any important "doctrines" that affect their daily lives with the McKay cult? I ask this question because the direction in which a cult leader pushes his followers is related to those doctrines that affect their daily relationships. Former members of one cult can easily feed anothe
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When I was dealing with trying to report the harassment I faced upon exiting NatLFed, several of the people who took reports used exactly those New Age "be here now" tactics to refuse the reports. I would try to report a stalking incident and the person at the desk would say "is it happening now?" and I would say "this happened this afternoon around 3" and the person
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Thank you for your support, corboy: you bring out all the points that our pastoral staff need to review every single morning when they start work! Our bishops are indeed getting on top of this in the Church and letters like what you describe are being heeded, FINALLY! One of my reasons for deciding to start posting about Catholic cult problems is that each time a bishop announces that a par
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Thank you, moderator. the "On Topic" part is what I was trying to re-inforce with my opening post and I did not intend to restrict anything as to persons, so I apologize for any misunderstanding. I will start the thread over, and I will also ask that the topic be respected, which is to track a specifc set of cults that exploit the Catholic Church community both against its members
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Brainwashed, one of the things I learned from my therapist regarding PTSD might be helpful to you. It is best to do this with a therapist, but you can probably also do it on your own. (and better to be on your own than to be with a therapist who supports Tolle's ideas ) Here it is: Learn the things that "mark" your state of mind when you are not doing well. It might be differen
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You have both worked hard to derail this thread. PLEASE STOP! What kind of person would ignore such a request? You both have no purpose in any of your posts other than to disrupt the topic.
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I am looking for a troll-free discussion. It is not at all unreasonable or against the rules to ask that people do not post unless they are actually concerned with the topic.
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Christa, I was addressing the fact that Oerlikon has spammed discussions with lists of links that are peripheral to the question of cults among Catholics and another person has posted with personal hostility to disable discussions. Your post here and the other one in another threaqd for example, both clearly are efforts to attack me instead of continuing the discussion. You made your post incr
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You are right, Christa, it doesn't have to happen, but it often does. It is part of human nature, after all, that we are vulnerable to cults and the recovery from one cult experience does not include a cure of our human nature. But as I said, getting good therapy can leave you with the tools so that the next time your "cult buttons" get pushed, you don't fall as hard or as
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There is no such thing as genuine petitions online. They are legal instruments. They have to be circulated to registered voters. We ended the war in Viet Nam with genuine petitions. We passed the ERA in many states with genuine petitions. You need to compose a paragraph stating the action you want your goverment to take, and then register the petition according to the locality. For example, y
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Adrian, Can you explain those links? They are a profile of terrorist activity. It is not my opinion, it is right there in plain sight. If it were only my opinion, then you could provide an alternative explanation for those links. So far, not ONE person has been able to do that. Every single person who has defended the McKay cult against my assertion that this is indeed a terrorist cult h
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Is this "petition" at the Care2Connect community? How is this collection of names of the people who support the war and object to gay male sex going to put an end to it? the Care2connect "make a difference" community is one of the internet's most notorious pro-homosexual leftwing communities. It is cult central. It is a haven for paedophiles. Those online petitions a
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I know there are plenty of other people who do not share shakti's new-age-style denial of the words I posted. Please do not let trolls like this stop the discussion. I wish the moderator would ban people who read plain english and then post questions that deny what was said in the plain english and also personally attack anyone who is criticizing a cult they support. Shakti has done thi
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Someone just sent me this video link and I fell out of my chair laughing and then I remembered that Poolman likes to make his followers masturbate in the dark so I think I need to tell my friend that this parakeet clearly is being initiated into the Desteny cult! TGIF, time to laugh a little :)
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