Rather than mix comments regarding David Luster and Turning Point Church Skagit Valley with the Turning Point Church World Outreach Center thread, I think its appropriate to start this thread. If you have questions or have experience with questionable teachings and or practices at Turning Point Skagit Valley that are or can be destructive please post those items in this thread. Thank you.
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I appreciate all of you for taking time to post here. Each of you have experienced the poisoned fruit of Turning Point in one way or another. Each of you are on a journey to find Truth; Each of you are at a different place in that journey. I respect you for taking time to post here. Some point to details like change of personal appearance, some point to the gain of material goods; others poin
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So painfuljourney, Are you suggesting that inviting Mr. Harrison to speak when they did was manipulative on TPc's part, knowing that the reality of recession mixed with prosperity teaching would cause the hearers of Mr. Harrison to give more to the offering? I wonder how much was received in the offering that day. I wonder how many sells Mr. Harrison had that day. I wonder how many mone
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There seems to be a tone deafness on the part of Mike and Cyndi. And no, I am not referring to the comment in an earlier post that said Cyndi sounds shrill when she sings. I am referring to an apparent lack of understanding of how their flock has been impacted by the economy of late. First, they take a four month, all expense paid, sabbatical; they return and discuss gifts that have been be
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Forgiveness 101, thanks for the posts. Your comments on the gifts bestowed on Mike because of the "honor" teachings are very similar to some of the postings on the RLc thread. There is nothing wrong with honor as you so aptly point out. And you also point out some of the pitfalls associated with honor. What is the motive for the apostle to teach the followers about honor? Who stan
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QuotewherefromhereI am wondering what Tony Cunningham is going to teach our soma students about what has happened down at Radiant Life's crumbling kingdom, where most of his staff has resigned. It had to be serious for Tony to lose his Spiritual son Brandon Miller. Maybe the resigning of Pastor Jackie is just the begining for Pastor Mike and Cindy's crumbling kingdom. Look around, fa
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SOMA students: Your homework for this week is rather simple: Study the book of Jude (Dont worry...its one page in length). Then ask yourself and ask the Elders ...oh wait... you guys don't have elders any more do you? You are no longer an Elder led church. You are an apostle led church. Hmmm okay. Fine. Ask these questions of your apostle: Who is Mike's Authority? Why has
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A few more links for those wanting to understand the concerns with the New Apostolic Reformation The last link is to a page that provides several links. Read everything in light of the Scripture. Ask the Holy Spirit to guide you into Truth. Turning Point, Your Pastors, elders and deacons are deceived. They are leading you down a road to destruction. They will leave your faith ship wrecked
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Does this quote strike a chord with you? Quote ...Nobody joins a cult. You join a self-help group a religious movement a political organization. They change so gradually, by the time you realize you're entrapped - and almost everybody does - you can't figure a safe way back out.... - Deborah Layton, Survivor of Jim Jones' Peoples Temple
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SOMA fans and students: if you were going to a REAL Bible school you would be studying the writings of the early church fathers. Here is an link to part one of a four part series on what the early church fathers had to say about false prophets. Only nine days until your false Prophet Tony comes to lead you into further darkness. Jeff and Kim Barnes, I suggest both of you start a serious inv
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A third link regarding the New Apostolic Reformation:
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Here is a second link-again from a critic. Read with an open mind, and measure against The Word of God.
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Learning Point I will post a number of links. I will post links from critics of the NAR but I will also post links from members of the NAR as well. Its one thing to here from the critics; its another to hear from the mouth of evil, itself. So for my SOMA friends, here is the first link-from a critic-please read with an open mind. Weigh what you read against scripture. Scripture, at one poi
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I found several articles about The Global Church and the New Apostolic Movement. I suggest you SOMA students start doing your homework.
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QuotemovingonPig squeal - Interesting to me that you think because of a conversation you had while working on their yard, that you know their hearts. They told you they want to not take a paychek from the church so the pursuing other companies they own outside of the church. So when do they work for the church? I have heard that office hrs are used for these outside businesses and some have q
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pig squeal: by the way, You feel free to judge that Mike has a "good heart" and that his intentions are "good" and that he is a "good guy". Likewise it is fine for others on this forum to come to a completely different conclusion regarding Mike based on Mike's behavior, actions and theology.
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pig squeal: Welcome to the forum. Your participation is welcome here. And I thank you for bringing your perspective to an ongoing discussion. Do you realize that your leaders have instructed people at your church to avoid this forum. You do realize that by posting here you are stepping out from your leaders authority over your life. I, on the other had am glad you choose to think for your
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Quoteoutreach I just received a phone call from a small group leader from TP wanting to know why we were leaving. I named the different things that we disagreed with and one thing I mentioned was Spiritual Parenting. He said they no longer taught that. They realized it was not scripitual and stopped. FYI. outreach Can a true apostle really not know that what he is teaching from the pulpit
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PainfulJourney, There are not enough words that can begin to make your pain go away. Please know that you are welcome here. No doubt you have begun a new direction in your journey and the steps that lie ahead perhaps seem difficult to even take. Thank you for taking time to let us know that you are processing your experience. We will pray for you that you will find the Peace that Pas
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BraveHeart, They dont affiliate with Tony, have cut off all ties with Tony and no longer teach Tony's theology. But now they have him scheduled to come in and teach at SOMA NW. I am not even sure what to say. Regarding the nice lady's comment who took your call, do you know if that was Carol, their receptionist? I do find it ironic that she resorted to the "divisive" a
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Gift of Song, BrokenHearted, Outreach, Thank you for taking time to post your stories. Please feel free to post anytime. Each of you have traveled a different journey that has the common experience of TPC. You are in my prayers. TPR
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QuoteoutreachI just received a phone call from a small group leader from TP wanting to know why we were leaving. I named the different things that we disagreed with and one thing I mentioned was Spiritual Parenting. He said they no longer taught that. They realized it was not scripitual and stopped. FYI. outreach This is a huge part of the problem at Turning Point. "They realized it
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180 Reject, Welcome to the thread. We hope you will find support and encouragement here. You have an important story to share. Regarding the resignation of the pastor and elder: Anytime an Elder/Pastor resigns it is significant in the life of a church. This elder's resignation will be interpreted by the other leaders and, possibly, it may be spun. It is important to pray for the Eld
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oh great. just what we all want to hear. Sermon illustrations about Mike's prowess in the bedroom. What is Mike's position on polygamy and concubines?
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QuoteNorthwestSome of the issues that have been raised in recent post have included: Word of faith doctrine Tithing methods TD Jakes and the helicopter pastor from Washington. Attitude of Pastor Ect… . The main problem I have is the accountability/elder format. Even if there is nothing wrong with turning point and everything on this forum is a lie, there is nothing stopping it fr
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SOMA NW students... Welcome. Free your mind. Ask your questions. Share your story. We wont ask you to double tithe to us. We wont require you to volunteer your time. We wont ask you to forsake your parents. We wont ask you to check your brain at the door. Come out of the shadows.
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QuoteLearningPointI had said I was going to make this post some time ago, and it has been on my conscience to follow through on it ever since. So here goes... First of all, I apologize in advance for the length of this post, but my approach was again to include multiple Scripture passages that give a fuller picture of God's design for leadership in the church, rather than a perspective su
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I have been praying for friends who are at Turning Point. I still continue to pray for each of you as you are confronted with much grief and anguish over what you see and experience at your church compared with what you see and experience as you study God's Word and discover His Truth. You are in my thoughts and prayers constantly. Your struggle is difficult. Seek out the Holy Spirit for H
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If prosperity is what God wants for all Christians then why did all...every single one...of the original 12 apostles die penniless? Peter and John are quoted in scripture saying, "SILVER and GOLD have we none, but what we do have we give to you. Get up and walk." They had no money but gave a man who could not walk the ability to walk. THAT is God's prosperity. That is priceless.
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