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Really interesting to read, I hope that the original poster is still doing well today on their recovery, although their life may never be quite the same again. Social isolation seems to be a bit of recurring theme, perhaps, and subconsciously, some groups offering a sense of belonging (minus a risk of rejection, for many this is unbearable) is what overrides the group content, pro’s outweighin
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QuoteShe is currently claiming for example to have invented an Artificial Intelligence technology which is orders of magnitude superior to the state of the art of the industry. Any information on what that technology might be? For instance and algorithm? Wearable / implantable tech? it has to be questioned also that since Candace was the writer of such thesis paper “metaspace”, then is her “
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
2 years ago
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“Why are some Hindu’s hostile towards iskcon?” QuoteWe asked the ISKON main person in that temple about why Krishna name is not mentioned in the list of Lord Vishnu avatars and I was perplexed by his reply. According to ISKON, Lord Krishna is the supreme GOD and else all are demi god's. I and my friend both got agitated by his response and asked him from which holy scriptures they found t
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2 years ago
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Some interesting related studies found about eye pupils and human / animal interactions
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2 years ago
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On the subject of the illusory thing that is sent around people who do not know, there is a recognised syndrome, “Paris Syndrome” which can be found on the link below, similar situation is relied on by some people with regards to India. It can happen with places that are advertised in a certain way but turn out to be different to what had been presented to the imagination. You get to see s
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2 years ago
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This YouTube clip explains superiority, and at the end of the clip it is said that not much can be done to help resolve it but at some point in life or other, as a point of emotional growth, it can be recognised and either dealt with or not, depending on how each of us as individuals are noticing and caring for ourselves in personal growth terms. In the ideal world, we have parents, elders, n
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2 years ago
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A discussion on the link below, Does ISKCON have its commentary on the Mahabharata? QuoteNo & probably it will never be. The Mahabharat will be totally contradictory to their belief that krishna is the source of vishnu. That's because in Mahabharat there must 100 of instances where vishnu is said to be krishna on earth. It makes sense as why they popularized bhagavad gita & bhagav
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Re mystic Pearl alchemy, great to watch in action ! In my own observation, mystic Pearl alchemy is not the “type” to turn up to one of these satsangs to Mooji, she is an unusual occurrence and Mooji immediately knows this, and likely sees her as a plant - “you need your own show”, he tries to bust her here but she is admirably unshaken. He quite obviously protects himself and utilises his f
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QuotePossessing this talent can be a burden. I've read some therapists describe how. for their own well being, they have to know when to stop using this acuity and turn it off before going home. If it’s possible, I would love to know how.
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QuoteThe energy-stealing tricks whereby the rich exploit the poor, the strong exploit the weak, are a kind of psychological cannibalism. So true, it is a kind of feeding scenario, but just for any of our predatory alien believing readers I would like to point that in my saying that, it’s nothing alien. Very human, just early human. I find that in my situation at least it is worth learning abo
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Hi Langdon, They sound really irresponsible. Congratulations on getting through it all. Wishing you best in your pursuit, although sometimes the fullest justice is to talk about it as you have done, and to get yourself back on track living your best possible life, focusing on things that are absolutely nothing to do with them, even court, though I completely understand why you would want t
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2 years ago
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This is such an interesting thread, I am yet to read all of it but just wanted to say that there are some early brain mechanisms, used or unused, it is not magic and many people are familiar with “knowing” that someone’s looking at you.. staring etc, I think that this alone is to do with the predatory nature of some early human experiences that our brains built the means to deal with. One of
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I was sure that I had responded to this post here, but it seems to not have happened.. I think that humour does have its place, in my own observation there has been a movement, mostly fuelled by social media where humour is simply not allowed anymore and I think that this says much about the structure of social media and how it is shaping our brains as humans.. there is poor taste humour and
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Hi India, QuoteMy experience of spiritual teachers and the people that support them is that there is always a lack of integrity somewhere, which is the human side, but the energetic and spiritual side which brings so much joy, and meaning that one has to always balance the world and its shadow, and the spirit and its purity. One has to be compassionate afterall. This is true, and I resonat
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Hello Ortiz, It is like no space for random acts, everything is controlled or set in the eyes of the person who cannot be free or allow freedom to others. I guess it is as the saying goes.. that things are only true for those who believe them :-) but someone will always come along and try to make that impossible too haha ! I also recognise that Karma may have been a nice way to try and
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
2 years ago
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Here’s a YouTube upload via Questions for Science where facts are utilised to pick apart some of Teal Swans claims: Note: others are included in the video too, the upload discusses the topic of “crystal healing”.
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2 years ago
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I recall reading and replying to this thread some time ago, it is interesting to see the update Jupiter has posted, and I feel sad to read about those body jibes, it is no consolation but worth noting that peoples name calling (and accusations) is where that person is in themselves, it is never about the person targeted. Words belong with their speaker. I am also sad to re-read corboys experience
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Thank you for validating my experience, and that of others too Corboy. QuoteThe first step to creating a community of enablers is for the abuser to convince us that our fellow feeling for abused persons is wrong, stupid, lacking in sophistication. - this point is so important for everyone to understand.
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2 years ago
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“Kundalini rising” and or “feminine energy” is a similar use (and reframing) of sex across the board in various practices, may play a part in why those who simply call it what it is see no problem in it, and those engaging may not either. Orgasm affects brain chemistry, so people naturally feel benefits of it.. usually meditation alone creates the chemistry to achieve “kundalini rising” etc, s
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Here’s a look inside an easily overlooked area when involved in abusive groups. Is the contempt shown towards abusive behaviour more important than the abusive behaviour itself? Contempt for abuse is an adequate, valid feeling state which is instrumental in being able to move on from abuse. Long have we all been taught to have compassion for people who continuously set out to harm other
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
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In case of interest, this article relates to parental favouritism, which is not the same as the guru / adherent situation however (in my own, personal view) does share the same dynamic overall. QuoteWhat are the effects of favoritism on the children? According to Mallory Williams, LCSW, there are serious long-term effects to growing up in a household of parental favoritism. “The biggest
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This aspect in particular of ocd p stands out, there is a culture amongst those who feel very challenged by views about something opposite to their own where people are told that they are doing a practice incorrectly, in particular I have in mind meditation... which would then tie in looping with the problem of straying away from a rigidly held belief causes dissonance. Rigidity is perhaps the se
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Thanks both, I’ll take a look and learn more.
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2 years ago
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Plenty of devout people may pop up to tell us that our experience of the group is faulty, not the group. They want to protect the group for their own reasoning, and not anything else. Here is an answer (from someone’s personal real life experience) to the question “what is the dark side of iskcon?” which will help acknowledge experiences that were not pleasant and are dismissed by others be
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Hi Garuna, That sounds like it will work for them with the vaccine. I can understand why anybody would not wish to receive it, although I personally do not perceive it to be a weapon. This would be a very time consuming way to go about something that if we’re talking about weapons for humanity, could be done quite easily in other ways a plenty. Amoo, I see that it is important to you that p
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QuoteThus, without mentioning the potentially adverse effects in newspaper coverage and in meditation programs on campuses may lead some to discredit and dismiss students' adverse experiences that may have long-term undesirable consequences. - it is a shame that this “discrediting” also comes in the form of those who have the luxury of not experiencing and perhaps not even noticing /
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QuoteThree biases The Gita’s western trajectory was primarily responsible for three biases that continue to inform politics in India today. The first bias is that the Bhagavad Gita was and is the most representative text of Indian philosophy. This is by no means true because in earlier times there were many contending philosophical schools in India and the interpretations of Bhagava
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In addition to the last post, “commentary” is someone’s own personal flavour. Many “commentaries” on the original Baghavad Gita exist, which if the Gita is as it is, would need no such commentary. Tradition is handed down, although not without the additional flavours of someone else. Continuing on, an interesting link on how Russia was forced into accepting the Baghavad Gita As It Is, desp
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QuoteIt’s actually been scientifically proven that individuals who struggle with mental illness are at high-risk when they meditate – as they continue to access the recesses of their mind through the practice of meditation, memories of prior trauma, psychosis, and hallucinations or delusions can transmit into a state of manic behavior or thoughts. QuoteIn 1977, the American Psychiatric As
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Hi Gary, Yes it’s true you were and are never alone on this topic, neither was I, but it can feel like it as it’s so isolating.. unless it’s someone else who’s fallen in too. So many people get wrapped into it, not difficult especially since the internet gave the ability to people like this for more visibility, and to any age who have the ability to search the web, access YouTube or use soc
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